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Editado por TheMeddler777:
10/20/2018 7:58:13 AM
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Answer me this
Why does kd have anything to do with someone's opinion?
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1 RespuestaOh wow this post made me fart ..... rub it in your chest
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3 RespuestasAnswer me this, who would you go to for tips, a 1.8 average or a 0.8?
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1 RespuestaDestiny has always been a social game, no idea why bungie is so hard bent on competitive.
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14 RespuestasKD in this game means NOTHING. In fact I stake that back it means you don’t play the objective so if your KD is high you’re a loner and don’t play well with others. It’s an anomaly of sorts. Unless you’re 100% of the time playing rumble you don’t do anything to win with a high KD.
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1 RespuestaMaybe because a skilled player knows what they are talking about as opposed to a scrub.
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Not being particularly skilled definitely doesn’t invalidate someone’s opinion, but it does mean their view on something in particular may be limited due to them not understanding how it performs differently at a higher level of play. For example, more than a few players considered the blink overpowered as well as the blade dancer super throughout the game in D1. Those players didn’t understand how to counter those abilities so in their eyes, they were broken.
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KD (and this game ftm) mean nothing to me, so little that I let my brother and nephew play on my guardians. But it is funny going on lfg looking for teams and seeking " will check for KD"....The irony is not lost on me here.
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12 Respuestaswhy does skill have anything to do with "someones" opinion? if someone like p.rod had an opinion about skateboarding ill value it cuz of his skills on a board, hes tried,tested and proven, hes not some bum of the streets. if gordon ramsey had an issue with the state of the culinary arts ide value it over some part timer flipping burgers at mcdonald's cuz well, its gordon ramsey. if "someone" goes on the bungie app, clicks on the crucible section of the forums and talks about anything related to the crucible and i see this person has a 0.65 kd 0.89 efficiency and 36.79% of wins with only 139 hrs played OVER 4 SEASONS. i doubt he/she takes it too serious so why would i respect his/her opinion? its not like theyve put 1000 hours into that game mode and still couldnt get better and stayed at those stats cuz then thatd be another situation, like damn, i wanna hear about those 1000 hrs that's dedication. now, "someone" doesnt have to put in 1000 hrs for his/her opinion to matter but perhaps if "someone" were to stay in the crucible maybe look up pvp videos, change their loadouts instead of coming onto the forums and asking if their opinions matter or not....that might help?but i like to give ppl the benefit of the doubt then ide check her/his raid report cuz if he/she is posting on the forums they cant be the type of person to just be ranting about the game without being a beast at atleast 1 part of the games endgame so, hopefully i wont see ZERO raid completions across the board in d2 for this individual.
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5 Respuestasyou're welcome to your opinion, just understand if you're being a nerf herder ( and you are, for most of your posts) you're gonna be met by some hostility. this game doesn't need to change to fit you.. [b]you[/b] need to change, to get good at the game.
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5 RespuestasIf you can't demonstrate a certain level of competence, then don't expect others to take your perspectives seriously. This happens in the real world as well (not just gaming forums). I won't listen to someone give advice on how to fix my car if they've never even opened a hood....
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1 RespuestaEditado por TheMeddler777: 10/20/2018 8:12:23 AMThis post is to bring up the principle of a faulty comparison. This is a statistical fallacy commonly seen in politics today and which one person will take two stats that fall under the same umbrella but are not directly connected, to discredit one side. Most people won't catch this because it seems to fit but when you really look at it you aren't comparing the same things. Not quite apples or oranges, but lemons to limes.
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1 RespuestaSince I think you mean that many people disregard your opinion because u have a low KD, I wonder why too. Could be because they think your problem isn't they'res and also because they could be prejudice against something they think is only going to hurt their gameplay because someone complained. Plus a few others I can't think of right now. It gets rough, I know, just bear with it.
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4 RespuestasTLDR at bottom. It seems your main issue is that you don't like that people use kd to define skill. You want to be separated from stacks, which doesn't make you better just because they take other skilled players away. Yes stacks can have better communication. Which makes them more likely to win, this doesn't make your kd tank. Kd is important because it isn't just about skill, but rather tactics and decision making. A higher kd means you know which fights you can win, and play accordingly, instead of just playing randomly. I personally have a mediocre kd, not because I don't have skill but because I enjoy playing wrecklessly. This means that I'm more of a detriment to my team. Than someone with a higher kd. That being said kda can offset this somewhat. I have a decent kda because I don't always win my fights, but I setup others to clean up, which makes me feel I'm not a detriment, even though my kd is lower. If you don't believe in kd that's fine. But you'll have a hard time convincing others, because you can't just blame stacks for a low kd. TLDR. Kd doesn't just measure skill, but tactics and awareness of ones abilities, making it a useful measure of ones benefits to a team.
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1 RespuestaHow many people can say they love a game when they suck at it which in most cases means they don't get any enjoyment from it? Who's word has more weight to it (or should anyway), the noobs who thought the increased hip fire damage for Last Word was OP, or the less than 15% who can consistently get those 2 shot kills in a game with a broken hip fire system (IMO)? A guy who sucks at using a weapon will likely be an unreliable source. A guy who sucks at a game will likely give an unreliable and very biased review.
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4 RespuestasOne correlation I see is that some who complain, put very little time into the game and expect the same results/rewards as people that do get into the grind. I find that element of skill or progression something where the sooks need to shut up and put the time in. Regarding actual “skill” people’s KD or such does hold some value when it comes to that element of the game. As in they have spent the time understanding the mechanic so may have a better grasp of that feature. Ultimately all opinions are valid, but it’s not usually what is said, but how it is said.
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Because if you are skilled then you are more informed than someone not as skilled. A skilled players opinion will always be > than a less skilled player. Pro > newb. That said, PC>consoles.
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2 RespuestasIf you needed legal advise would you ask your buddy that watches Law and Order or an actual lawyer?
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22 RespuestasEveryone is entitled to their opinion. But just like others have said, context matters. And IMHO, improving your skill can fix quite a few of the problems most of these posters have.
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14 RespuestasBecause someone who's bad is gonna think everything is overpowered? I 1v3d my friends for fun and I made sidearms and snipers overpowered. It doesn't mean I don't love my friends.. it means I won't do comp with them 😂
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It's all relative. In PvP I'd say a skilled player's opinion should weigh more than someone who doesn't have the thumbskill to strafe while shooting for instance. As for those saying "experience over skill" I can agree with them somewhat but it needs to be a mix of the 2. I know people with 100k kills in PvP but are incapable of going positive consistently. They have lots of hours in Crucible but just aren't good at it. One, for example, can't snipe to save his life but screams Snipers are broken when he gets headshot by one. He's a very experienced player but not good at the game. Should his opinion weigh more than mine given I can trounce him in a 1v1? No, it shouldn't. Just like mine shouldn't be the be-all-and-end-all against his. The 2 should be weighed against each other to see what correlates. That being said, it's likely my opinion is more accurate on what is and isn't broken, just doesn't automatically mean his is wrong and irrelevant as some would suggest.
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3 RespuestasPeople that play the game and have the most knowledge of a game are usually the most talented at it. This applies to everything. Skill is a subjective term though. Should people who are really good at PvP have a say compared to those who never play and instead come up with excuses as to why the Crucible is unbalanced (and no matter how much its patched they're never happy. A.K.A They're not as good as they think they are.) Of course. Should people who are really good at raiding have a more worthwhile opinion than someone who think the campaign is too hard? Of course. You have the choice of either going to ask your doctor or some quack who thinks he knows everything about being a doctor but has never done it
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I mean, some of the smartest guys on my friends lists are older and while any squeaker or neck beard with no job could out play them in most of this games content, I would take the opinion of someone intelligent over some supposedly skilled player because that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re articulate.
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1 RespuestaRather than Skill. It is experience that should give credibility. If you are a 4.0 kd, but only played your first matches just caring about your KD, you are not experienced. I am an experienced raider, possibly not skilled enough to pull a solo encounter, but I can manage my own on all encounters (I'm excluding last wish since I haven't set foot there yet, too low light. Maybe this weekend)
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7 RespuestasWe talkin .6 bad or .........1.0 bad ...
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3 RespuestasSometimes it’s a little like if yoryruthful or not. Would you take someone with 500 hours of crucible opinions over someone who has 10 hours? K/D really doesn’t matter I would say its hours to see who has more experience
