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10/11/2018 11:52:23 PM
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Not sure why people continue to complain about elitist players. I am not one, but i also dont care if you are one, it just means we likely wont end up raiding together since i am consistently bringing either lower level or not so skilled players through raids. If others dont want to have to bring those people through, then that is fine, it is their choice.
Some dont have the time and others dont have the patience to bring players through that may take an hour on just the first encounter. And that is every bit their right. I dont see elitist coming in and telling me that i should not be allowed to teach people how to do the raid, so why would i come in to tell them that they should not play how they want to play.
I have never cared to be an elitist nor really play with them, and i doubt that they mind.
I just dont see why people get so angry about how and who others choose to play a video game with. Let them play how they want to, and you play how you want to. If you dislike elitists then you likely wouldnt want to play with them anyways, so their requirements make for a good filter for you.
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Not sure why people complain about people complaining in a forum they don’t have to read....
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Editado por Nickel7Dime: 10/12/2018 10:31:44 AMNot really complaining about it. Simply asking a question and stating my confusion about something, and then explaining why i find it confusing. Is there something wrong with opening up a potential avenue of conversation by stating that i find a particular groups actions confusing? Although i guess some are bound to be annoyed when they cant think of anything to back up what seems to be revealed as rather irrational anger and dislike of certain people. It is also likely that the fact that my statement kind of reveals such people to be hypocrites, makes them even more mad, however they cannot seem to figure out how to appropriately respond.
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When you say that someone’s actions are strange or their opinions are complaining, you are not opening a conversation, you are closing it. Those terms don’t indicate respect. You use those terms to dismiss the value of their opinion. However, you seem to have a problem when you receive the same treatment. Maybe that’s the conversation you need to have with yourself.
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I mean are you going to now attempt to argue that what the person has posted isnt a complaint? Asking why someone is complaining about something is a perfectly valid question, it isnt dismissive in the least. This person has stated a complaint, they are therefore complaining. It isnt some big leap in logic here buddy. I simply stated exactly what the person was doing. I also must ask, if you had really nothing to add to the conversation, why did you bother replying to me. You have made it fairly clear that what i said simply hurt your feelings, and yet you have added absolutely nothing that could be considered as pertaining to the things i actually said. I guess i could always try asking you in a different manner, one that might not be so "dismissive" in your eyes. Why do you care so much about what others look for in a group? Why do you care about these elitists demands? Is that nicer for you?
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Lol you didn’t hurt my feelings... But apparently yours are hurt....
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Not in the least, you just seemed rather annoyed. My post annoyed you enough to feel the need to reply with how you felt about it, and how the wording seemed to you, rather than actually adding anything to the conversation or really making any kind of reply that actually added to the discussion. Basically your post might as well have said "i dont like that you called it complaining". That was basically the entire point of your statement.
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So, by your logic, the original comment hurt your feelings so badly you had to comment. By your logic, every comment made bothers you to the point of commenting. My point is not that you called it complaining, my point is that you are no different. My point is that unless you respect the view of the person you debate, you can’t expect respect for your view.
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Editado por Nickel7Dime: 10/12/2018 7:59:01 AMAgain please show me even once where i disrespected the person i was replying to. Also i asked a question, you on the other hand decided to give a statement about how my comment didnt belong here. Those are two rather different things. I didnt demand that the original poster leave, i asked them and anyone who thinks as they do a rather simple question. That is a pretty big difference. And again, how is asking why someone is complaining a complaint?
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Again, you didn’t ask anything. Telling people that their behavior is strange while you mimic it, IS disrespectful. Calling their opinion complaining while elevating your complaints to gospel IS disrespectful.
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First off i didnt even say the word strange in my post, so that was a bit of an odd thing to try and throw in there. Second i simply stated exactly what the post was. I guess this brings us back to the original question i asked you, which you have yet to answer. Are you going to try and argue that the original post was not a complaint? There by trying to argue that the original poster was not complaining? It also brings us back to another question you have yet to answer, where did i complain?
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“Stating that I find a particular groups actions strange” That was you, Clyde. You labeled their actions strange in an attempt to dismiss their opinions as irregular.
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That isnt from the original post. That was a reply to you, and a general reply at that. And even if it was it sint exactly insulting to say you find someone actions or ideas strange. There are plenty of psychologist and scientists whose ideas i find strange, but tjis doesnt mean i dosrespect them in anyway, it just likely means i dont understand them.
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I didn’t say it was from the original post, I only said you said it.
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Editado por celeb2112: 10/12/2018 7:42:10 AMI am adding to the convo... I am pointing out your hypocrisy. Your comment is no less complaining than theirs, you just choose to see it otherwise. At the very least, they are in the right place to complain about the game. Your complaint is more like whining because someone urinated in a toilet or made a grilled cheese in the kitchen. And further, you didn’t ask anything.
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Saying "i dont understand why people are complaining about something" is a pretty open question. Also feel free to point out where i complained. I stated i dont see why people complain about elitists. That is an open ended statement. Then i proceeded to state the reasons for my confusion. Hypocrisy is to do the exact same thing that you have condemned. For example complaining about certain peoples demands when playing a game, while simultaneously demanding that they play a certain way. Asking someone or a group of people why they are complaining about something is not hypocritical. If that was the case asking any question about something you are confused about would somehow be considered hypocritical.
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Saying ‘you don’t understand why someone is complaining’ is not an open-ended question. It is not even a question. It is a statement. [u]ASKING[/u] why is a question....
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Funny how the word "why" is in my question. "I dont understand why the earth spins" is an open ended statement that can double as a question. It is open to others answering. "I dont understand why the government made that law" is the same kind of thing. A person could say after that it was a rhetorical question, but it is a question all the same. My statement really isnt much different from saying in a manner such as "why are you complaining" or "what are you complaining about"
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Using the word “why” in a sentence doesn’t make it a question and this sentence is proof. I don’t know “why” you would think that, but since I am not ASKING you “why”, I really don’t care.
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Actually that first part of your second statement is a question. You only cancel out the question by specifically stating that you dont actually care about the question. Pretty basic stuff, the first part doesnt stop being a question, it just doesnt end up needing an answer being you have stated that you dont want an answer to the question why. It is still a question, you just answered it itself. And seeing as i did not answer my own question with anything along the lines of "i dont care why" or "the reason doesnt matter" it remains an unanswered question. This is not so much basic english, but more so intermediate. Still not all that hard to understand.
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Sorry, but you are daft... It was never a question....if it were, I would ask why you feel that way. I didn’t. I made a statement. The only reason you think it is a question is because you think your opinion has merit over fact.
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Again it is not daft, it is english. And while i admit english can be rather confusing and convoluted, it does have some rules that it mostly follows. And one such rule is that the word that makes a statement into a question does not necessarily have to appear at the beginning of the word.
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No, the rule is that to be a question, it must be a question. For example... Can you tell me “why” you feel that way? Troll, I have forgotten more about the English language than you know.
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Well it would appear you forgot one to many things because you forgot that what i said in my original post does indeed count as a question.
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Only among the undereducated.
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And yet if that is the case then they would be one step ahead of you. Because if even the undereducated can see that, it says a lot. Maybe our education systems are better than people give them credit for?
