Mixture of salt, boredom, not having a gf, and lying like they are not buying D2. Everyone still here trolling has pre ordered the $100 verson... FACT

We do it just to annoy you.

There's a strong difference between someone who hates a game and one who wants it to get better. Most hate right now just comes from people who point fingers and laugh for no purpose and offer no solutions.

If you love the game, why do you care so much about people who don't?

People still play this game?

I'm here because I loved destiny at the start, gradually bungie have driven that from me. I keep playing, desperately hoping they steer it back on track. Such a great game, being undermined by greed and ignorance. The reason people like me are labelled "haters" is because the people who defend the game can see no reason, they blindly argue against any criticism of the game. I'm not a hater, I just see clearly without glossing over the faults.

I'm here to hate you.

This is the thing most people get confused. Players like myself don't HATE the game. Actually, quite the opposite. We dumped so many hours and spent so much time in this game because we LOVED the game - as it used to be. We're vocal about our displeasure with the game RIGHT NOW because we don't like the direction the game is going in. Whether you see it or not, many others feel that this game is shifting gears to become just a standard, generic FPS. That may be fine for those who came to Destiny for the FPS experience, but this game attracted MANY different players from MANY different backgrounds - MMO, RPG, FPS, PVP, PVE focused players - all playing under one roof. Players like myself WANT to love the game, but as the game continues to stray away from what attracted us to the game in the first place, of course we are going to be upset and criticize those decisions - in hopes that Bungie will listen and reverse course. I think what is MOST frustrating for some is the fact that we bought into the game for the PVE experience, the PVE replayability, and the space magic. And the change to a more traditional FPS game reduces or outright annihilates the very reasons we were attracted to the game in the first place. So often now, changes are made to suit the PVP/FPS crowd, and they tell everyone else "if you don't like it, don't play." Too often, I hear PVP-oriented players saying "I look forward to not getting killed by X, Y, and Z in PVP." My big question to them is "If they didn't like the game when they were getting killed by X,Y, and Z in PVP, why did THEY continue to play?" If they loved the game so much back then, why did they want it changed so drastically? The truth is that the people who have driven the direction of this game away from an MMO/RPG with awesome space magic and weapons to a game centered on primary gun play are people who PROBABLY shouldn't have stuck with the game to begin with. If the space magic and powerful weapons and faster PVP bothered them so much, they had two choices. Stay out of PVP and play the PVE, or play other games. Instead, they complained and whined about balance, X weapon or Y ability being so powerful. And because they have allies on the Sandbox team who are like-minded, those very same things that BROUGHT us to the game in the first place were almost completely eliminated in BOTH modes. If the rest of us wanted to play Halo, we would have simply popped in the disc to play Halo. We wanted the space magic and powerful weapons and we wanted them in spades. Instead, what we have gotten is a dumbing down of the game, the watering down of our weapons and abilities, and an overall less fulfilling game. Many of us won't even move on to play it. But don't mistake our displeasure with the direction of the game with "hate." We WANT to like this game as much as everyone else. We're just waiting for Bungie to give us a reason to.

Haters gonna hate

These forums aren't the greatest place for civil discussion. Destiny's subreddit is better.

Nice post Deej, but you can't brainwash us all into being sheep. Only those in your fanboy cult.

It's because we have two categories. You have the drama queens that just want to spread angst so they can be in the middle of it, and then you have the people who think they can change Destiny to what they think is fun. This is for the latter group. [b] Just because you don't agree with the direction something is headed does not make it bad, nor does it make you wrong. It simply means your expectations and hopes for the game no longer line up with what the devs have planned.[/b] Re-evaluate your priorities. Figure out why exactly you play Destiny. If that reason is gone with D2, accept it and move on. If not, then wait for the game to come out, actually PLAY the game, Then start formulating feedback in a constructive manner. And please, for the love of Suros, stop osting these inane 'waaah I'm leaving' threads. Because odds are, [b]You'll be back.[/b]

criticism to make a better game The fact Halo CE a game released in 2001 has more content, replay ability, AI and story is sad lmao

Too bad there isn't a mute-all function for this post-most of your replies are from the people I wish would just leave the forums...

They're people with no self-worth who need to drag everyone else down to validate their sad existence. That's all, pay them no attention.

Most of them are basement dwellers who are just mad that bungie didn't cave in to their demands.

They are here for the same reason I was here back when I stopped playing destiny. To see what's gonna happen next and what bungie will do. Only difference is that while I tried to joke around and criticize destiny is a more civilized way (sometimes), most people here just hate on destiny 2 and the changes that come with it for little to no reason. That and they completely throw all known logic about things out the window in a sad attempt to make their "argument" seem legit. Very few who dislike the game on this forum actually try to explain why they don't like it other than the obvious reasons everybody has heard thousands of times.

What if I left to catch up on unplated titles (you don't realize how many good games you missed being sucked into Destiny) spread no hate, will be back for D2, and just love the entertainment value of this forum?

I'm just here to shitpost m8