Maybe because it's a beta? Like actually wtf people need to calm their shit.

Shut up and stop complaining. Pvp is great now. It feels like halo, which is what most want from bungie. The people that are complaining are the 12 year olds that still play CoD and can't deal with strategy

Take away the bungie employee's voting and it would be 1.0/5.

2.5? ...thats still too high

Wow, that's a higher rating than I thought it would get.

If u want call of duty, THEN GO FÛCKING PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!!!!!

D2 with D1 guns and TTK would have been amazing

Most people enjoy the PvP actually. The PvE is the issue if anything. Slow TTK allows you to DO something before getting gunned down the second you turn a corner.

I agree, every kill is from teamshooting and 90% of deaths are from being outnumbered. Flanking is pointless, because you will be teamshot. We really need either better time to kill or a mechanic to make the game FUN.

For people that play solo queue and don't use the mic, this PvP is controller throwingly unfun to play. [b] This is very similar to what killed Halo and a few other games:[/b] -It starts when people that just play for fun or like to run around without the team are now useless feeders. -Few months later "Destiny PvP is so toxic" starts showing up online everywhere. -Six months later Destiny PvP is "dying" because even a competitive scene needs a casual scene to keep it alive and no casual wants to play it at all. There is of course a very loyal and very strong following of a few thousand who love it to death and rule the matchmaking landscape. -One year later Destiny PvP is a meme and a joke. "This game has PvP?" starts showing up everywhere. -Two years later Destiny has been fully sacrificed at the altar of appealing to eSports and streamers. Less than half of the playerbase will even go into the crucible for a bounty because of how much the experience can just ruin their afternoon. -Three years later Destiny 3 is coming out and Bungie advertises a more casual friendly PvP experience. Luke Smith comes onto a ViDoc saying "we liked 4v4 and small maps, it was a great experience and we learned a lot from that, but in Destiny 3 we'll be making an effort to make sure that people who just wanna maybe chill and shoot some dudes... that they have their place too." The community explodes with excitement at the return of PvP that looks really similar to Destiny 1 and people like me throw their consoles out the window because we just got played... [i]again[/i]. This is hyperbole of course, but my prediction is that unless there are major changes, something much like this could very easily happen.

Because all xbox players are scrubs with 0 skill.

Stop complaining! Jesus, man. The PVP is easy and loads of fun. Just adapt and get better. Sorry that it takes skill to kill people now and you can't use your crutches anymore (grenades, melee, snipers and shottys). The TTK is not that long, let's not be ridiculous and if anything, this beta is showing Bungie that they absolutely should ignore the people who aren't providing constructive criticism and who are just complaining mindlessly, like you are. You have to remember that the beta is an old build, and they have already made changes that we have not seen yet. You need to understand that the beta is a systems test and most importantly, this is NOT the final version we'll see in September. Until then, I'm really enjoying absolutely destroying people who don't know how to strafe, winning games, competing against other skilled players, going Undefeated (it's what unbroken is called now) and earning We Ran Out of Medals, all while solo queuing.

Take away crutch weapons that kill significantly faster, take away 1 hit kill pvp moves, take away ability spam, take away super chain spam. Yeah PvP kids are gonna riot over it. Take away ability spam, take away super chaining, take away orb spams, put emphasis on primary gun play, take away the crutch DPS loadouts, make enemies slightly harder. Yeah PvE kids are gonna riot over it. But before the beta this is exactly what they were asking for