YOU Guardian are correct, I'm 48 and while am OK player in very far form the best, I played for fun with friends, we mainly played pve & a few pvp games depending if Mayhem or elimination were there. From what I've seen so far from Destiny 2, and what mates have said I already know 8 more players who won't be getting it on launch day, 3 of who cancelled their pre order today, if that trend continues with other groups of friends then I predict a grim future for Destiny 2, clearly shown in this link. https://goo.gl/images/bJbp1a