[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/5ax7ea/can_somebody_explain_the_arguments_for_and/d9k60o3/]This is a good summary on the issues surrounding voter ID laws.[/url] [quote]Pros: It just makes sense. You are casting a ballot under your name, an ID is the universal way to prove you are who you say you are. It's what we require to do basically everything else in this country. If you were to design the system from scratch today, a photo ID would almost undoubtedly be a requirement. No state imposes unreasonable requirements for obtaining an ID. It is easy, cheap, and many states offer them for free for low income individuals. You might be able to argue that it is impossible to determine the full extent of the issue of voter fraud when we don't have correct systems in place to catch it as it occurs. Stats will not convince people who believe this is the case. Cons: Since we have a system that currently doesn't require this in many places, the burden of adding this law falls unreasonably heavy on the poor, who don't otherwise need ID in their daily life and may lack the means to get one. These are the folks who likely won't even know they need ID until they are turned away at the polls. There is no statistical proof that voter fraud is even a problem, making it unnecessary legislation. The push for voter ID is almost certainly rooted in disingenuous political motivations by the right. I believe it was North Carolina who was found to have done the research that proved voter ID laws would affect mostly Democratic voters (poor minorities) and then wrote their states law according to that research to bring the most harm to those demographics. Other states were not as stupid as them, but you can almost be sure, as with anything from our country's politicians, that the source of these laws comes from trying to rig the game against their political rivals. EDIT: Adding sources North Carolina ID Law targeting poor minorities: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/ Voter fraud statistics: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/study-finds-no-evidence-widespread-voter-fraud-n637776 Ease of Obtaining Voter ID: http://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/918/does-it-cost-25-to-obtain-a-free-voter-id-in-any-state [/quote]

1. They're not racist 2. Liberals like to call anything that won't get their candidate elected racist

You have to have an ID to get any other service , everyone should have one, you should certainly be required to have one to vote. Hell, my 94 year old blind mother has to have a picture ID for a parking sticker.

basically the idea is that minorities (not just racial minorities mind you) may not have photo ID either because of a poor background or some other reason such as being elderly and not requiring ID for anything else. its one of these things where its a stretch to call it racist i personally think in this case its more about income than race but whatever

Because it's bad and stuff. You know, because of reasons.

They mostly serve white people kek

Because SJWs said they were, and what they say is law.

Note: THIS IS NOT MY OPINION, I AM SIMPLY EXPLAINING ON BEHALF OF LIBERALS. According to those who perceive the voter ID requirement as a "racist" (a term that, in my opinion, is thrown around too haphazardly) practice, racial minorities tend to be more impoverished than their white counterparts (I have no statistical information so I cannot confirm), which makes it difficult for them to pay for an ID. To sum it up: Racial minorities are poorer, cannot afford ID, thus alienating them from their right to vote. The practice itself of requiring an ID to vote is not seen as a racist act.

If you don't have an id then you probably don't give 2 shits about voting. Its completely made up bullshit. You can get a government Id for free - that argument is bullshit. Its how democrats win elections so it is, like every other thing, racist.

Remember, you still need your ID to pick up your welfare check.

They just are ok, stop being logical and coherent.

I think you should have an ID to vote, but we should provide them for people who are too poor to get one

The real problem with voter ID laws isn't that they're racist. That is a ridiculous claim for anyone to make. It is how they are written. For example you can be a US citizen, but if you have to move for any reason, work/career reasons being a good one it can in a lot of states disqualify a person from voting if they have not updated their photo ID to reflect their new address even if they only moved a few miles away or to the next county over, which in many cases does not legally require a person to pay the tax to update their ID; but it will still disqualify the person from voting. The idea of voter ID laws is sound in theory; the problem is that it is a blatant move to hopefully make for lower voter turnout because of how the laws are usually written; and how there are almost always cases of "fine print" embedded into these laws. Not only that, but since a government issued photo ID is payed for and collected as a tax, voter ID laws can also be interpreted to be a poll tax which would be unconstitutional under the 24th amendment. Quite frankly there is a better way to go about identifying voters. We live in the digital age now. That said, a digital fingerprint or iris scanner would be a better way to identify voters. No photo ID needed; simply scan your hand or eye.

Nah you have to call it racist. The second somethings called racist everyone runs and hides... instead of having a logical discussion that would result in your inevitable loss, you call it racist; then get people pissed off, and the topic is closed without further discussion. Liberal play that works almost everywhere...

The reason most seem to think it's racist is that it discourages low income black families to get them, because they "can't get an id" bullshit. Yes they can. Even if this was true, how is it racist?

I don't necessarily think we need voter IDs, but they would help. At the very least we need to prove our citizenship.