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Editado por NtraGalactic: 9/12/2016 8:25:18 PM
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ICO Shoulder Charge nerf

To begin I'm going to throw this out there, I'm salty. Now that that's out of the way, I would like to address the recent patch that modified the shoulder charge. In summary, it takes longer to shoulder charge an opponent, making it easier for a player to counter. This can be achieved a number of ways. If the intent is to make a Titan an "in your face, down in the mud or in the thick of the action" then they need an immediate way to defend themselves short range or else run the risk of death. The Melee ability is nice however two melees of any class can kill a guardian in your standard scenario. Only difference is the Titan is immediate short range so they have to out maneuver their opponent for it to be a fair fight. The maneuvering capabilities are "nerfed" when thinking about the momentum required for shoulder charge. A player does have horizontal and vertical range of motion in the shoulder charge momentum carry but, you can never stop moving(and a sprint at that). So it's easier to predict the movements of a shoulder charge Titan because you know he's going to keep running if you see it e.g. Warlock spots Titan sprinting for what's more than likely a shoulder charge because of the wind effect will think "hm what beats that? Or yeah, guns. Guns beat it." So then warlock pulls out shotgun, walks backward and waits for the enemy to get within range of the shotgun. Until that point a primary is typically being used to weaken and kill the target. That's it. So making the shoulder charge slower and giving it a cool down only means you're allowing people that got bested, to basically get coddled and get a participation medal. The shoulder charge is now an embarrassment. If I get you with it it's a shame, end of story. Peregrine greaves will still be equipped but I'm sure shutting down a super will require a level beyond out maneuvering your opponent. Sincerely, The guy who uses this A LOT.

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  • It was a good thing but never op.....now any casual with zero reflex can counter it....u still managa to catch a lot of idiot off guard but these little scrubs are always going to complain about it....you know what bro? I hope they are happy XD start deal with my juggernaut party god roll party crasher acd feedback build....suck it up complainers

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  • You know what chaps my wedding tackle about this nerf? The simple fact there doing this nerf based on a bunch of whining little babies. As a person that has played under all 3 guardians since day one i find this nerf to the Titan a bunch of crap and wished bungie would just stand up put there big boy pants back on and tell these whining little bitches to get good or shut up like they used to in a certain game they made 10 or so years ago. And just one more thing imo I wished they would just leave destiny alone. There making so many changes to guns, sub-classes, etc. I feel this game is one update or hot fix away from being the next dust collector on my shelf.

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    • If you want my honest opinion, they should have gotten rid of it completely and given titans an actual lunge with their melee like the other two classes. I personally think shoulder charge is stupid, but having played a Titan I know the pain of T-rex arms.

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      • Editado por MyJumpMan: 9/12/2016 1:45:00 PM
        Lol at all the cry babies who hate shoulder charge. It's an aspect of the game get over yourselves. Play the game as its intended, to your advantage. If you don't like shoulder charge, walk around with a shot gun, but don't ruin others play style because you suck at defending against it. How dare Tom Brady throw the deep ball, my defense can't defend that, ref make the deep ball illegal for all of us cry babies with no defense. I main striker Titan, and my favorite thing to do is run around a crush the hopes and dreams of crucible wanna be's. Before and after patch 2.4 and will continue to crush your hopes and dreams come the next nerf and the next because why? No nerf can stop my determination to piss people off lololololol ;)

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        • Editado por Kone19ps: 9/13/2016 12:17:10 PM
          It's fine. There's an artifact coming out that removed sprint cooldown entirely and if you can't compensate for this little change you simply weren't good with shoulder charge to begin with. I tested with mks and without. The difference is barely noticeable and really just forces you to think a little bit instead of spam....which you'll be able to do again anyways. Besides they didn't change the tracking so like a sword you can still rotate your view and pull bullshit 180s as well as a ohk melee that you won't lose if your health regens from shoulder charge. You get free health regen on a SC hit. Seriously dude your crying is silly. I barely even notice a difference from compensating right away. Complain when you lose an entire mechanic like tripmine stick

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        • Shoulder charge was never a fair ability. I main hunter and one day i decided to take a break from actually trying in the crucible and made a striker titan. I am now able to win rumble games using only shoulder charge.

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          • [quote]Only difference is the Titan is immediate short range so they have to out maneuver their opponent for it to be a fair fight. [/quote] T-rex arms. Shoulder charge was actually pretty good because of their short melee range but, when players just spam it and don't use anything else in close quarters then it becomes a problem.

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            • Nerfing shoulder charge is balance but with and without exotic shoulder charge is op and thats not balance

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            • Its been nerfed slghtly for ROI with the new artifact that lets you run indefinatly

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            • I'm a salty hunter and I like.

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            • good bye Mk.44s.. so i lose to shotguns and sidearms, and most fusions, so let's slow down the titan so we'll lose to all fusions.. and guys reloading, cause they'll have time for that... and forget trying to catch a guy running away... guess i'll never hear Shaxx tell me "You are the Weapon" again ... more like you are a slow moving target, and good luck getting your super in because.. well, you're slow.. start carrying a jacket in case the seasons change while you're shoulder-charging.. and might take your Christmas gifts with you too so you don't arrive empty handed to the party.. and now at least now my shoulder charge is as accurate as my hammers.. I thought the Titans were supposed to be the tanks, the front line, tip of the spear, the aggressors... now we are support for Hunters and Warlocks.. let me know when the fighting's almost over and i'll pop a bubble and shot gun anyone that gets through, maybe make a nice stew for when you boys get back from the front, some biscuits to go with it.. oh i can learn to snipe, yes i'll set back here, cook some stew and snipe.. and biscuits, don't forget the biscuits..

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            • I mean I guess you can call it a nerf. If you sucked with it before you will still suck. And if you were good with it, you will adapt and still make the enemy cry.

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            • Lol, I'm glad they nerfed it.

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              • Well said op,you made some valid points,and i do agree, high impact sniper rifles should be buffed.

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              • It's just to stop it being op when the RoI artifact, memory of Jaldor is released.

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              • Sunsingers have been nerfed heavily due to crying so deal with it

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                • What does ICO stand for?

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                • Editado por Athos SD: 9/12/2016 6:49:12 PM
                  I'm not all that happy about a lot of the changes either but I don't wanna jump the gun here because ... We may get our ability back with the new relic. Now as far as the Nerfs are concerned slowing down the animation is sh!t it just looks retarded now. Try jumping up in the air and activating SC you see what I mean. Nonetheless I can adapt to this by activating closer to my intended target . Now is it the unfortunate truth that I don't get as many SC kills ?? Yes and I have had to change my style a bit since the update but I now rock an Eyasluna and either a comedian or a party crasher and still feels enjoyable to smash someone face in or kick their teeth in. Truth is I love being a Striker aswell and will continue using that as my main. I don't care for using Defender as much it's not as fun in my opinion. Ps you don't need the best KD to wreck fools. An average player with some situational awareness and basic skill can get a lot of kills. I have personally wrecked kids that fall under pressure when put against an aggressive skilled shotgun striker Titan. #TitanMasterRace

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                • Honestly the Titan wouldn't be getting so much hate in general if they couldn't skate. Why should the slowest class move to fastest with such a deadly on the move melee? I don't think the shoulder charge needed a Nerf but something needed to change since they are NOT going to do anything about Titan skating.

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                  • I kinda like the nerf, but not for the slowing down of shoulder charge. I think they should've kept the charge time the same, but the homing in did need a little bit of a nerf. It got irritating after someone made a 180 and shoulder charged me by flying STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR.

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                  • Editado por Kone19ps: 9/12/2016 3:44:26 PM
                    For the nerf not the silence

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                  • It needed a much more severe nerf. You got lucky

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                    • You have good points. The problem I have with the nerf is that the Titan is built for CQC and making shoulder charge less effective really takes away a strength of the subclass imo. I would not care as much if the grenades were more powerful, but now not only are striker grenades easy to counter (just move out of the way), but so is shoulder charge. Not saying shoulder charge is not effective anymore, just have to adjust to it. I am also curious to see how it works with the Memory of Jolder Artifact, which is Bungie's excuse for nerfing it.

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                    • Where is it noted that they changed SC? I don't see it anywhere and I don't remember reading it.

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                      • You look like a pretty good player, so I'm not talking about you, but I hate those little kids who run around with shoulder charge and don't use guns. I loved this nerf.

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                        • It was changed because a RoI artifact would have made it op if they didn't.

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