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8/26/2016 3:22:25 PM
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Bungie may be considering raid matchmaking
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/25/bungie-has-been-talking-a-lot-about-matchmaking-for-destiny-raids/#4d4b21447a11[/url]
It is about damned time! I hope they do this right though!
Full disclosure: I have my own raid team(s) to run the raid with and can raid virtually any time I want. I likely won't use the feature, especially if it is optional matchmaking.
With that stated, I am all for anything that helps remove barriers to accessing content. Sure, it will not be a perfect solution, but nothing in Destiny will ever be perfect. It is a feature that I am sure will work for some, and it may even get more veteran raiders performing the roll of Sherpa for less experienced groups.
Like and bump this post if you think Bungie is doing the right thing by considering matchmaking for raids!
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15 RespuestasOptional mm is a no-brainer.. It's hurts absolutely no one. Just another way to help people play the raid, meet people and eventually not need mm Let's face it, lfg is a pain alot of people will never bother with, all it is is manual matchmaking anyways.. might as well incorporate it into the game
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2 RespuestasMatchmaking won't help anything. You'll matchmake up, and this is the team you'll get: AFK guy, someone with no mic, guy who's taking a "quick" smoke break, the kid who yells at you for his own mistakes, and one guy who knows what he's doing. You won't make it past the first jumping puzzle. Seriously LFG isn't that hard to use. I have no friends to play with, but I still made it to 335
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To those that didn't read the article: Bungie internally discusses MM options often, especially when creating new raids and content. Their preferred method of MM that they feel would work best is an In-game LFG, not OMM.
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They will never make MM for Raid and that's a good thing.
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9 RespuestasEditado por chickengoujohn93: 8/28/2016 2:59:57 PMCons still outweigh the pros of optional matchmaking... If such a feature is implemented the people who decide to matchmake will be matchmade with incompetent players, micless players, mutes, trolls, underleveled players, afkers etc. and will resort to complaining on the forums begging Bungie to reduce the difficulty and remove communication required mechanics of any future Raid. The potential Raiding figures (which have become the new norm and level of acceptance for Bungie) will go into freefall leaving pre-made teams and clans as their regular playerbase once again. Bungie will pull a knee jerk reaction and water down the Raid and any future Raids with it to make it accessible for all players at the behest of those who complained because they put resources and time in making Raid matchmaking happen. Best option is in game LFG but that is the least of a lot of people's worries at the moment. Rather see improved story, more regular content, in game grimoire, better servers before an in game LFG is ever implemented... Most people have phones/tablets/laptops at arms reach when playing Destiny so how about making use of them and spend no more than 2-5 minutes finding a fireteam on LFG to Raid? Heck, even the Playstation 4 and Xbox One have built in browsers to Google! You don't even need a god damn phone/tablet/laptop, 3 clicks of controller, boom, you're on LFG and you can keep the tab on standby for future use too!
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7 RespuestasNooooooooooooo I don't see why people want this shit. Hell sometimes it takes hours to finish a raid with the shit people you gathered on the forums or other sites. Now you want just anyone to come into your team that doesn't know what to do or just plain sucks. The logic is unreal.
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I would pay to see tht raid completion lol
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So the age of trolling in a raid has begun...rest in pieces the matchmakers...
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9 RespuestasFun thing is if they do this, just to prove a point, i plan to abuse the system and show just how flawed, and how much of a bad idea it can be for people who don't believe it.
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3 RespuestasPeople should find friends...
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i will kick bad players period.
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5 RespuestasAt this point I don't see why people haven't beaten kings fall. Lacking the amount of time to do it on a busy schedule is fully understandable, but just simply not being able to do it? Very little intelligence is required to do this raid and some people lack that. I was at work one day and a department fell behind badly which led to my production going down the shitter and doing nothing. So I looked up kings fall hard guide and listened to it 3 times that day. Did my first raid with little to no help from the other 5 teammates. They don't want to learn how to do it, they literally want to be carried through At this point, the people that have attempted kings fall countless times and can't beat it are just truly helpless. That's why matchmaking will be the worst idea
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1 RespuestaNot sure how it will work with people leaving in the middle and people not knowing how to do it and the fact that some people will not communicate or even own a mic.
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2 RespuestasWhy? So then we continue to grind raids we don't like with people we most likely don't like either? Yeah..... can't wait....
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Bump....easy way to get a little experience in raids without being shunned in lfg.
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Doesn't need to be Mach making like for strikes etc. Just take destinylfg .net (or whatever) and stick it in the actual game. So you still post and filter who you get paired up with as usual- it's just in the game.
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4 RespuestasIt's interesting to see how most people think that all other players are incompetent retards. It think if they put a minimal Light level requirement on it, it will flush out [b]most[/b] casuals. They just shouldn't force it on people who rather play with a pre-made group of less that 6.
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In game lfg, it won't happen, but that would be way better
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Please no, I would like to have access to an in game LFG finder.
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1 RespuestaLove these misleading hints they wheel out when new content is available to pre order haha
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3 RespuestasEditado por Scorpius XX1: 8/28/2016 2:48:36 AMSooo, now we have Bungie dumbing down raid mechanics as an excuse for non matchmaking. I thought about an edit to my original post, but this argument is just too ridiculous. I had to do a standalone on this one. This argument for one, presumes we are dealing with complex raid mechanics to begin with. Nothing could be further from the truth. I mean how far would they have to go to dumb these things down completely? The answer, not very far. This of course is giving a lot of players the benefit of the doubt in saying they know left from right, can count to four, and know what counterclockwise is. I mean seriously? This is the grand complexity you guys are saying we might not be getting in the future if we go to MM? Are you serious? Don't get me wrong, I know there are some unlit lightbulbs out there, but how intelligent do you have to be to go on you tube to view a raid mechanic? Not to mention what is it, only 17% of Destiny's current playerbase now have raid completions, and that's without optional Matchmaking. If they were going to simplify raids even further, THAT would be the reason why, not optional matchmaking. These are basic problem solving at best. There is nothing about these raids people with even a reasonable amount of intellect can't figure out given enough opportunities. Come on guys, terrible argument.
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6 RespuestasJust to give y'all a little preview of things to come with this, the division has matchmaking for incursions which are much more simple as far as gameplay mechanics and communication, that shit is borderline terrible 99/100. Not saying in against this but wait until it's here and i bet people will be singing to a different tune
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2 Respuestas[i]Maybe[/i] for the old raids (VoG, CE), but there is literally a 0.00000% chance that KF & WotM have any kind of matchmaking whatsoever. The obvious reasons would be no communication, incompetence, afk'ers, and trolls. People already complain about getting dropped into crucible games that are in progress.. Could you imagine MM for KF and getting dropped in at Daughters? So you complete the final two encounters, and then what? You just hope that you land a fresh run the next time you enter matchmaking? And if you get it, then there's no reason for you to continue after Golgoroth, so you drop out.. It would create an endless cycle of people joining and leaving once they cleared the encounter that they needed. I would say it would be a miracle if 2% of match made fireteams cleared the raid from start to finish. Bungie has said countless times that they're not going to add match making for raids. It goes against what they want the player experience to be like. If I take anything at all from the statement quoted in the OP, it's that we should expect some sort of in-game LFG board in the future.
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Unless they let you set certain parameters l, it would be pretty infested with people quitting in frustration.
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I can see them implementing this into older raids, but not newer ones. Vault of Glass, Croat, and now even kings fall. But certainly not the wrath of the machine. (And should be optional of course.)
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