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8/12/2016 4:30:24 PM
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Dear Nerf/Buff Community,
Stop judging what is and isn't overpowered based on trials or 6's, it's what breaks the game.
Trials is a passive game mode, death is punished severely, so of course distance/passive play is rewarded. This is the only game mode where trades/sacrifices are punished, so complaining about MIDA, TLW, GoM, Doctrine, and sniper is asinine. Weapon type and class diversity (or lack thereof) is a symptom to the overall unbalanced nature of the elimination game type, not the balance of destiny as a whole.
Same with 6's, is storm caller powerful? Yes it is, in 6's especially, why is this? It has everything to do with the sheer number of people and lack of communication. Jump into skirmish and that super is nowhere near as powerful as the community believes. Weapons as well, weapons and abilities will be spammed and abused due to the amount of players. Don't take this overuse as OP (in some cases it's an indicator) rather it's just 6's being an unbalanced game mode.
Destiny is pretty balanced, there's minor balancing issues for classes and range optimization for weapons but overall the game is decently balanced.
Stop trying to balance things in unbalanced game modes and instead look at it from a 3's (skirmish) perspective.
Sincerely,
LightArc1205
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#Destiny
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14 RespuestasEditado por Karma: 8/12/2016 8:37:00 PMMost of the people here "Shoulder Charge is OP nerf it" have you tried back pedaling and shooting? Or using a shotgun? Maybe don't rush if you can't do those things. I understand a death here death there like "I was getting flanked so I ran and got shoulder charged" or "I wasn't paying attention to my radar" but you need to accept that it might be your fault, he did a good play, or you couldn't have lived in any way shape or form with any decision and move on. I guess it could have a cool down and the hit box needs a little work but that's about it. IMO buff Fabian Strategy, buff Sunsingers, and slightly nerf Juggernauts HP. Feel free to comment what else you want buffed/nerf (No shoulder charge because I addressed that)
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1 RespuestaThe voice of Sanity and Reason has spoken. Well Said.
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2 RespuestasIf anything is unbalanced its game design and map design. Shotguns will always be powerful on close quarter tight corridor maps.
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3 RespuestasEditado por Swiftlock: 8/14/2016 8:11:42 AMNah. There are still many underpowered weapon archetypes and subclass abilities that were nerfed too hard and need to be fixed. We are [b]FAR[/b] from "pretty balanced".
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13 RespuestasI've never cried for nerfs(except the fire bolt with VF and ignite, I'm a a warlock main btw) but the grasp of Malok needs looked at. And I think we can all agree
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1 RespuestaHey light. I never knew u were on the forums, it seems ur pretty popular
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4 RespuestasIt's the Nerf community that sucks. Currently only shottys and snipers are used because pretty much everything else is terribad unless you are amazing with them. We need to rebuff primarys
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21 RespuestasWho are u to judge truth is no one knows not even the top tier players
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10 RespuestasKind of hilarious that you would tell us to stop complaining and then go to say destiny is pretty balanced right now. Why do you suppose that is? Oh right. Because people complained. And actually balancing is best done from the top down. Or the highly skilled players down to the terrible players. And the skilled players play a variety of modes. mainly trials and other 3v3's. But control and FFA as well. No one mode is the best to look at. And bungie shouldn't focus on one single mode. also TBH Storm caller is powerful in super and in neutral. the only 2 true areas it hurts in is grenades and super vs super game.
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13 RespuestasAs much as love the game, it has glaring problems. There are entire archetypes that are ignored in PvP. Slow RoF weapons (scout rifles aside) are ineffective compared to their faster firing brethren. A tone had been set for a fast RoF meta. The p2p system performs in unexpected ways when dealing with poor connections. Teleporting, mystery deaths, guardians immune to damage... It's frustrating at times. I still play the game though, and I thoroughly enjoy it. I don't deny that the PvP is fundamentally broken though.
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Watch out, or bungie will nerf you
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22 RespuestasEditado por Tamed: 8/13/2016 7:04:31 AMSong of Flame needs a buff. Viking Funeral needs a buff to 12.5% per stack. Thunderstrike with Amplitude needs damage falloff. Pulse, Arcbolt and Thermite grenades need buffs. Juggernaut needs a rework, it should not be its own separate entity. It needs to be able to be over penetrated by GG, snipers, sleeper simulant and weapons with APR or it needs a bleed effect. Bladedancer needs a default speed boost during super akin to Heart of the Praxic Fire. Sunbreakers need a buff to hammer throw speed. Defender bubble needs to be tinted or opaque to where the enemy team can't see inside it but you can see outside of it. Throwing Knives need their damage back. All handcannons need an accuracy buff. High Impact handcannons need to be able to kill in 3 bodyshots or 3 headshots. High impact autos need to kill in 1 less bullet. High impact pulse rifles need to kill 4 headshots and 2 bodyshots. A bunch of exotics need buffs.
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5 RespuestasDear buff/nerf community, Thank you for making the game more balanced. While most of you don't know what you're talking about, bungie at least takes a look for themselves and makes educated decisions.
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35 RespuestasRemember when PvP was supposed to be a side-activity, and now the main PvE game as to suffer due to the stupidity of PvP. If you look at every weapon from a PvE standpoint, almost nothing has even been OP, but now weapons like Hawkmoon and TLW to name just two of dozens are just useless.
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1 RespuestaBuff everything.
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13 RespuestasStormtrance is amazing in any mode, in my opinion.
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2 RespuestasPetition to let Bungie know how much everyone hates Jon Weisnewski.
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16 RespuestasEditado por Trash Boat: 8/13/2016 5:33:14 PMWhen my Grim Citizen III lands all headshots, I started shooting first, and we're in close range, and a MIDA still beats it, there's a problem Normally I'd agree. I hate nerf posts. But there's obvious imbalance currently. Edit: to be fair guys.. I really have no idea what's so hard to understand about "shooting first. Strict headshots. Specific gun's effective range. MIDA still wins" It's getting a little dubious to keep explaining that. Besides. There isn't really an argument to make.
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9 RespuestasGreat post, trials for sure generates the vast majority of the nerf post as it is the "end game PVP mode". This is why in my opinion trails needs a new mechanic, been pretty much the same since HOW. On top of trials promoting passive game play, there is no SBMM. People get destroyed by a certain load out and assume it is "OP" without realizing they are very good players. Sure things need an adjustment ever now and then but looking at one game mode to balance all of crucible is super frustrating. I watched the majority of the last tournament, matador was running wild (not a bad thing, just saying). Subclasses/shotguns/snipers are in a pretty good place, just need to slightly buff some of the archetypes of primaries and subclasses.
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18 RespuestasEditado por talhasen123: 8/13/2016 10:19:12 AMWeapon and class wide, sure you are right but other than that absolutely no. I just tried to do salvage mode and the game put me in an already started match with like 8k to 2k scores (this happened for like 3 times in a row). After than that it put me a match where sb was afk for a long time. And almost every game I play solo there is 2-3 laggers for each team. Matchmaking is too long etc. There is so much, I mean so much problems we got here. Sure bungie should not listen to nerf people but if they listen to people where they say pvp has no issue at all (not you my friend you are right) pvp will stay unfixed for a long time
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I think what people fail to realize is that bungie looks at the data before changing the game in pve or pvp in any significant way. Our complaining on hashtag Destiny does next to nothing but start arguments. If you want your voice truly heard there ks a sub forum dedicated to that. On another note all you're doing by mentioning all the things you think are "Brocken" or "op" is making bungie aware of a potential issue. Bungie take you're need post into consideration and then look at the data.
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8 RespuestasHow about we just disregard everything pvp players say and just focus on pve so that say the game is fun? Give pvp only players private matches so they can make all the stupid rules they want and buff the shit outta everything so you can use whatever you want to in a raid or strike.
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15 RespuestasSo basically, you use Mida, Shotgun and Stormcaller? And you're, ummm, lmao, haha.... trying to defend it. xD
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1 RespuestaAll PvP should be done away with. It would make the game so much better. Once dedicated servers are implemented, then bring back PvP
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6 RespuestasToO is the tumor growing on Destiny's B-hole.
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