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Editado por Axiomatic: 7/27/2016 5:50:20 PM
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Hey Bungievision, bring back elemental primaries.

Title says it all. I enjoyed this game more in Y1 when there was diversity and we had a different primary for each burn. Also back when nightfall actually was useful. Edit 1: Just got back to this to see 100+ notifications and 50 up-votes! Glad to see the support for what I said. Hopefully bungie does something about this mess. Edit 2: Lot of people on both ends, half saying there wasnt because (insert fatebringer because this was definitely the only primary with a burn that everyone used exclusively) or some other non-sense. I agree with the half saying there was, obviously, due to the fact that we actually had viable options. More than one gun had a burn which gave us variety. Not like it is in Y2 where the only primary with a burn is zhalo. Anyway, keep the feedback coming. Try to avoid being a douche about your opinion, it's appreciated. Edit 3: Lot of people getting real butt-hurt about the "diversity" we apparently have. Pocketlock said it best "everyone says burn primaries caused no diversity. there is no diversity now. just look at the crucible. and everytime its arc burn heroic strikes its zhalo. void burn is snipers. solar burn it's snipers. everything is snipers. there is totally diversity now." Edit 4: Holy shit 100 likes! Also as someone else pointed out, Bungie made a fool of themselves because they said they didnt want us to feel like we wasted our time working for gear/weapons when they did exactly that. Made all Y1 shit useless for PVE.
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  • Cue PVP players telling us to stfu and deal with it because - A) They dont even need elements and B) All their year one weapons still work for them

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    • Hell yes, bring back elemental primaries, they made the game more fun and made the raid worth running. Oryx hard mode weapons are a joke!!!!!!!

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    • It's not just elemental primaries. It's also this bull shit rotating meta. It's the constant fiddling with what players are using. It's this constant game of growing accustom to certain weapons and then having to learn how they function again after every round of nerfs/buffs. It's the nerfs/buffs based on usage instead of necessity. Players should be using whatever the hell they want and whatever the hell they are comfortable with. But Bungie has no idea how to balance a game that can't be balanced with the weapon systems they've developed. It's just not possible without going to vanilla loadouts in PvP. There are too many perks and too many combinations of perks to ever hope this game will be balanced. It's also their hardlined stance that they will not separate PvP and PvE.

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      • "More diversity is taking away stuff." -Bungie Apologists

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        • It's one thing Bungie made a big mistake on in this game. They started it out one way and decided to change everything and thought everyone should just get over it. I will never understand how Gamers on here keep saying us day one gamer should just drop things It's in the past. Yet Bungie keeps reselling y1 stuff piece by piece. If they can do it with exotics and allow every single weapon that's ever been made to play in PvP and work in PvP. Why is it selfish for the PvE gamers to ask to have the same opportunities? [b]It's selfish of Bungie to allow everything to work in PvP, but cap everything in PvE at 170 from Y1.[/b] How is this justifiable knowing that they cater to PVP. Using the microtransactions in time events ( [b]mostly for PvP.[/b]) So when is Bungie going to start showing respect to the PvE gamers as they have for the PvP gamers? It's a proven fact that removing the Exotics from y1 to be sold back to us piece by piece that there was no real reason to remove them in the first place. Ghorn is a prime example. It's a marketing tool right now with an added bonus with an unknown perk. So why aren't they allowing primary elemental in this game? It doesn't effect anything in Ttk and, yet they refuses to listen to the top most requested. By removing primary elementals it didn't create a "variety". It forced you to use what was offered to you and nothing more... [b]PvP is a proven fact that nothing changed whatsoever. Gamers still go to the next go to and that is a fact that no one can deny. What is the most used weapons right now. Now try to tell me what's the difference when primary elemental were around?[/b] Here ill tell ya! ( [b]NOTHING[/b]) you still used when the top weapons no matter what gets nerfed. Meaning the top weapons to use to get the job done weather is PVP or PVE....

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        • Bump. Bungievision stop the "planned obsoletion" practice. All weapons and armors should be infuseable.

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        • Guns like fatebringer, word of crota, atheon's epilogue and the Vex were all real good guns in Y1 but no one really used them I'm PVP (post vex nerf). These were the PVE guns and should have been. This is what defines PVE vs PVP. There is nothing wrong with grinding for a real good elemental primary. It took me 5 months to get a fatebringer and 7 months for a vex. They need to be brought back. Let's be honest here, we still use elemental secondary and heavy weapons for a burn strike. I don't see a big issue with the elemental primaries so long as they don't over take PVP.

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        • If having burns on only a small number of guns was causing lack of diversity (which I do not believe is true) then the answer isn't to remove the burns, but to allow ALL primaries to be infused with burns. Rather than dropping elemental primaries, raid bosses can drop infusion cores which add elemental damage to any weapon with only kinetic damage. THAT would solve the diversity issue. All removing elemental primaries did was remove yet one more FUN aspect from Y1. Removing something players actually enjoy is never a smart move. Ever. Elemental primaries NEED to make a comeback.

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        • Yes

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        • I think you may have lost them at "Bunghole"...just saying.

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        • It's hard to believe they sold this game as something entirely different back in 2014. They've changed everything hat worked so well now.

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        • Editado por TheMaestroNoob: 7/26/2016 9:43:21 PM
          Like I said before... In Y1[b] ALL[/b] players were using [b]ONLY [/b]Fatebringer for Arc damage, VoC for Solar and WoC for Void. Nothing more. Just those 3 guns for PvE. Right now players are using different guns. Even some of the players are using just 1 gun, but it is not the same gun. Some are using Imago Loop, or Grasp of Malock, or pre-april Hung Jury, or Zhalo and e.t.c. Bungie did right thing when they removed Elemental damage from primaries. They increased diversity of guns. If you are using just one gun... well, it is your problem that you are using 1 gun only. Bungie do not force you to use one primary only. I have 7 primaries for on my Titan and 8 on my hunter. I like to swap them sometimes. Because I like all of those guns.

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          • Bump

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          • No, they render all other primaries useless.

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            • I personally think all exotic primaries barring the universal remote and NLB should have a burn - it would encourage the use of exotic primaries in end game content - the only time you see a Hawkmoon is on small arms and even then it's rare to see... When was the last time anyone used an assault rifle other than the Zhalo to complete a strike? It's still heavy on one aspect and light in others!

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            • lol they won't. They'll just bring another exotic primary with an element on it. They said they wanted diversity and they got it.

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              • I personally used every single elemental primary. Now I only use 1 to 2 different weapons for everything. Bring back elemental primaries would be better, in fact there should be a lot more, all final level primaries should have a random burn.

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              • Editado por TheLastRib: 7/26/2016 5:00:00 AM
                everyone says burn primaries caused no diversity. there is no diversity now. just look at the crucible. and everytime its arc burn heroic strikes its zhalo. void burn is snipers. solar burn it's snipers. everything is snipers. there is [b]totally[/b] diversity now.

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                • Editado por Hurphy: 7/26/2016 11:48:26 PM
                  I like how the title openly insults the owners of these forums yet I got a ban for calling the status of the crucible the g-word If you are a forum mod PM me I would like to discuss it

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                  • Editado por OrpHicMagic: 7/26/2016 7:24:02 PM
                    I mean your second edit is mostly false. 90% of every mission, and every crucible match was fatebringer and Vision of Confluence.... Edit: I'm aware that's only 2 guns, the rest weren't really viable for anything other than nightfalls and even sometimes that was iffy.

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                    • Year one I actually had weapon diversity. Needed to deal with Arc shields? Fate bringer or Fang. Solar shields? VoC or abyss defiant. Void? Never really got lucky on that front. Y2 I purchased the vendor hung jury and never changed. True diversity is right tool for the right job application. Y2 was just one tool attempting to fill many roles. Sure the person next to me might have been using a different gun but they still are experiencing the same issue. No reason to change the primary ever. To compound to the issue infusion made swapping weapons detrimental unless you were lucky to feed your other primaries. If you're happy using a screw driver in the place of a hammer then I suppose we'll never see eye to eye. I prefer using a hammer for a nail and screwdriver for a screw. I'm not gonna cry because the person beside me is doing the same. In fact I'd celebrate the efficiency. That's exactly what elemental primaries were. Efficient

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                    • Editado por WhitEWatchEs: 7/26/2016 2:18:09 AM
                      Diversity you mean Fatebringer Black hammer Gally I have used so many different weapons since primary burns went away. To be honest it wasn't necessarily the burns, it was the weapons themselves were just too good. Nothing could compete in pve against the few main loadouts

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                      • Would love to use Abyss Defiant against solar shielded Witches in CoE. Loved to use Hunger of Crota and other Crota raid weapons. I want to use my Vex and Necro again, instead of this shit Zalo AR gun.

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                      • it won't happen unfortunately and you can blame puke smith and Jon wisenewski puke smith said they wanted more weapon diversity that's why elemental primaries were removed and Jon wisenewski hates fun

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                        • Everyone's usin zhalo all week again. Wow diversity.

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