You aren't locked out of anything you paid for.

What they're doing now is just having "Limited timed events" so a bunch of people get on at once and it looks good for their shareholders

I see that youre very disgusted with how theyve treated you as a fan, and i feel ya, playa. Ive been waiting ...not so patiently, and not always quietly, for Bungie to release a game that i considered a worthy successor to the Halo trilogy. For their time, they were THE premier fps developers. That gunplay is too slick, feels too good with a controller, and over time, theyve added more auto aim to make it seem slicker than ever. The company has long since become a shadow of their former selves. Gone is the real talent and hunger that drove Bungie to make such absolutely divine fps experiences.........Halo 2 Lockout, anyone? Nowadays, the best you get is some pale comparison of what used to be considered professional. The people making the decisions about what YOUR DESTINY will be, lol, are money men. They dont give 2 shits what you want, only what youll pay for. And that will change in time. I guarantee this business model wont be able to sustain itself for long, Eventually enough people will be disgusted by the overpricing, under performing, and content light games these chicken hawks will provide, and that will be that. Sales will drop low enough for them to have to take action. But thats not gonna happen until enough people stand up and say, ENOUGH of this bullshit. The timings really up to you all.

Would you disagree Bungie?

[quote]I know this is really -blam!-ing long so don't comment telling me, it's not like I didn't realise when writing it. The way Bungie treats their loyal customers is appalling, DLCs are grossly overpriced and make up such a large portion of the game that after purchasing Destiny one walks away with a half finished game that feels closer to a demo than the actual thing. Additionally on the release of each DLC, features previously enjoyed by players are locked, only to be sold back to them upon purchase of DLC (I am referring to the nightfall, weekly, heroic and any strikes in the vanguard playlist that cater to players above level 20) It is fine to release extra features to players wishing to purchase them, but to punish players who cannot or wish not to is an abhorrent mistreatment considering THEY ALREADY BOUGHT THE GAME. I fall into the category of those who cannot, I simply cannot afford the $70 ( a price difficult to justify considering it costs more than the game itself currently and the same as several new release games) and to be punished by developers in the form of having half the game locked out is simply capitalist and immoral. I have been a fan of Bungie ever since the release of Halo Combat Evolved and have been a loyal customer ever since particularly enjoying Halo 3 and Reach and in the course of this loyalty have had an unflinching belief in their concern for their customers. A belief that recent revelations have dispelled. Customers like myself who have poured countless hours into Destiny are now feeling as though the fruits of our labour are non existent with the inability to use our weapons and armour we fought so hard to achieve in any vanguard playlist above level 20. I write this with not only my own concern at heart but with that of Bungie's own public reputation itself as while my fondness for Bungie has obviously been tried, I still feel a sense of loyalty that has been present ever since the first Halo games and bolstered by the beta for Destiny and of course the initial release. Bungie, as a company would obviously understand that these grossly overpriced DLCs alienate their less affluent customers and make the gaming community slowly but surely begin to view them as greed stricken and capitalist. It is unheard of to pay $70 for a single expansion and even more so when said expansion sell back to you features that where previously available. It seems as though you are stepping on your loyal longtime customers to capitalise on a newer market who joined late enough to purchase things such as the "Legendary Edition" and this is going to obviously damage Bungie's PR something I know myself and many others would take no satisfaction in seeing. As you already know the $40 for Taken King caused an uproar in America so you can only imagine the way we Australians feel having to pay and extra $15 (exchange rate accounted for) on top of that for no apparent reason. I urge Bungie to consider their customers and understand that a few shaders and a sparrow are naut but a flaccid attempt at reparations of burnt bridges. I fail to understand why Bungie cannot repeat the actions we saw at the opening months of the release and add content to the game at no charge such as the Vault of Glass as you must understand as I personally (among others) have already poured large amounts of money into destiny, purchasing it at release for 360 at the price of $90, then purchasing the dark below for $27 and then buying the game again for Xbox One for $30 do you honestly think I should be sitting here feeling as though $117 has bought me a mere fraction of a game? (obviously Bungie can't be held accountable for my next gen repurchase costs). I fail to understand why the DLCs have to contain such large portions of the game that the vanilla game feels like a demo in comparison. I, who has fallen behind on my DLC purchases due to a lack of funds and a considerable gap in playing between my switch from 360 to xbox one feel as though I simply cannot catch up to other players. I know I do not stand alone in this feeling and I simply wish to ask Bungie this: is this how you feel you loyal customers should feel, is this the experience that you intended for the gaming community? If so, then Bungie's customer satisfaction will never be that of what it was back in 2007-2013 where Bungie's expansions consisted of simple "map packs" priced so that the customer didn't purchase begrudgingly and leave feeling as though they've been swindled by a greedy corporation. I ask Bungie to reflect on your actions and reconsider the path you have taken if not for you loyal customers, than for yourself. And tf with the this etheric light shit boy, I cant play iron banner or any house of wolves content so should I bin all my non exotic weapons that require it to ascend? With the taken king also comes the new level cap of 40, a level only reachable if you are to fall victim to the marketing scam TTK is and purchase it. Players who haven't bought TTK cannot reach this level and are capped at 34, therefor they cannot use any legendary weapons or armour that can be found through regular gameplay or bought at the tower so Bungie has now taken away the ability to use legendary and exotic weapons, only to sell them back to you, charming. Even vanilla exotics that can be found in game or bought from xur now require a level of 40, impossible to reach without TTK, yes bungie is literally removing content to sell it back to you. On top of previously stated issues bungie recently gave several "sterling treasures" to long time players as a reward for sticking with the buggy mess we experienced early on, of course the rewards received from these gifts require a level of 40. This gift is another farce, another instance of Bungie falsely constructing an idea of charity only to deliver another attempt at persuading the player to buy TTK. How is that a reward for long time players, Ive stuck with destiny since the beta, buying it at release and honestly the way I feel Bungie has treated myself and others in my position is plain disrespectful and appalling. It's okay to release new game content but not when that content; should've realistically been part of the game at release, removes features ALREADY PAID FOR AND USED BY PLAYERS and (subject to speculation) was part of the game at release only to withheld so as to maximise profits. Guardians who cannot or have not bought taken king are also only able to do one strike playlist a level 20 strike, this level 20 strike is a joke, honestly.TTK players are automatically boosted to level 25 meaning they wont use it, so basically this playlist is just bungie saying f*ck you to all the people who refuse to or find themselves unable to pour endless amounts of money into a game. I paid for the dark below strike playlist, it was a major convincing aspect in regards to my purchasing of the DLC, to then have this removed is infuriating there's no reason why it had to go, only Bungie, trying to squeeze as much, money out of loyal fans as possible. if you still do not believe Bungie is just here for money, I have one conjunction for you: Microtransactions, yeah I don't need to elaborate do I? And if you are unsure wether Bungie really has an utter disregard and disrespect for their loyal long time players let me tell you this- Legendary edition $70 in Australia, TTK (purchased of xbox live in Australia) $69.95, yes new players are paying 5c more than you and receiving all the content you paid close to $200 for, thanks Bungie, we're all really feeling the benefits of our loyalty to this game through what would be put lightly as "thick and thin". I'm not saying don't offer DLC, by all means go ahead, but when you ruin a game players have already poured way to much money into as an incentive to force purchasing of a DLC, you do not deserve the mindless fans that will defend you on this post for they are too loyal, too trusting and far too faithful for a corporation like yourself who plays them for fools and takes advantage of them like you. Considering the state that the game was in when it came out I really don't think we should be paying for content that fixes basic issues, adds enough content for Destiny to be considered as anything more than a beta or demo and elongate the story beyond the 20 minute mark, we should be given the DLC not robbed for it. pls respond bungie. ps. keep it lit [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. See [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0]Cozmo's thread[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] 😧 u give me a headache with all u blablabla. ..

Games are a form of entertainment, not a right. The game has been out so long now I refuse to believe you can't afford a second hand version. Personally I think value for money is one of the best things about Destiny - I've had about 2,000 of fun for say £150 overall, I can't think of anything else where I've had so much entertainment for such a low cost per hour. I personally don't think having to pay to continue to play is unfair at all.

Bump. Bungie doesn't care about existing players, because we've already paid the initial $60. We're expendable. But the new players who are willing to spend all that on a yet unfinished game -- bungie will bend over backwards to make the game more accessible for them. But us -- we don't matter.

The base with all three expansions so far is 50 dollars USD. Not sure where you're getting this 70 bullshit. And it's Bungie's right to do as they please. You bought access to the game, they're giving you access to as much of the game as they feel you paid for.

This is why I mainly play Overwatch now. That game somehow never gets boring, neither does Fallout 4. Bungie and Activision are now using Destiny as a way to get as much money as possible with the least effort possible. They showed us a game that would truly have taken its place on the shelves with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, a game worth every penny, but then screwed us over. What we receive was an incomplete mess of a game, a waste of money, a true let-down. I thought the game might flop and decided to wait a bit longer until a week or two into its release, and I remember reading all of those reviews and hate on the forums and feeling so bad that I was right. I bought the game anyway to see how bad it was, and I wasn't happy. I stuck through it, but now Destiny has become so bad I think it's time to put it down for a long time. I feel sorry for the year 1's getting left behind with nothing to do, scammed of their game, I feel sorry for the new players that will be so disappointed when they buy this game and see the money scam it truly is. Finally, I feel sorry for the people addicted to this crapfest scam made by Bungie and ActiVision, because they'll waste so much time and money and then realize only too late that it was all for nothing.

So once you buy a game, any content bungie releases for it even 2 years later, you want to be free? They charged $40 for a expansion A YEAR AFTER DESTINY CAME OUT! In your mind, bungie is screwing their customers over by charging for new content? That $60 base destiny game you bought in sept 2014 isn't worth $60 sept 2015! NEITHER IS ANY OTHER GAME A YEAR AFTER RELEASE! I can see you don't think rationally or logically. Just irrational and have the inability to look at scenarios outside of your current focus. Otherwise You're a.... Yeah you know what I DO AGREE THEY DON'T APPRECIATE THEIR FANBASE, BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS THAN YOU. But that's a whole other can of worms that I don't feel like getting into right now.

You are correct. That's long. You are also wrong and making some invalid comparisons. VoG, for one. That's not "adding content at no charge", it's releasing the raid once people have had time to get accustomed to the game and leveled up high enough to do it. They did the same thing with KF (and probably Crota but I don't remember, they definitely did with hard mode). The "open to speculation" part about cut content is stupid so I'm not even wasting time on it. I can speculate about aliens controlling McDonalds in an elaborate ploy to fatten up the human race so they can eat us, but it doesn't make it a valid argument. Instead, I'm going to point out the fatal flaw in the almost-as-tired "Greedy Bungovision takes content away with each expansion" trope. This "argument" relies on defining periodic [u]events[/u] such as the NF or IB as basic content, which they aren't. They are events. I'm just going to cut to the chase and point out what the implications of letting everyone who has not purchased the most recent expansion continue to participate. Basically it comes down to the fact that you are really asking for one of two things: 1) The new content for free (strikes/IB weapons/crucible maps). 2) For Bungie to maintain multiple simultaneous playlists to cater to players who apparently don't like the game enough to buy the new expansions. #1 is clearly selfish on the part of the player and a terrible business practice so we'll move on to #2. First off, the population of people who [u]still[/u] can't be bothered to buy TTK but nonetheless play regularly is almost certainly quite small. Those who want to but can't afford it are likely an even smaller segment of that group. So in order to cater to these [i]non-paying[/i] customers you are asking for multiple playlists as the nightfall, for example, has been on TTK-only missions for the past few weeks. So unless Bungie is going to let you play those for free (nice try), they would have to have a separate nightfall for people who didn't buy TTK. So what about when that one has the Taniks strike come up? Uh oh, now we need a [u]third[/u] playlist for people who didn't buy HoW. Oh look, now it's Omingul this week. Guess we need a [u]fourth[/u] playlist for people who only bought Vanilla. What's that you say? Who cares it's just randomly generated and wouldn't need to be micro-managed? I'm not sure that's true as it may not be part of the existing code, but let's pretend coding is easy and that's the case. Ok, well lets talk Iron Banner then. You think people complain about the lag and wait times for matchmaking now? Just wait until the server needs to simultaneously process an entirely separate pool (or pools) of players who didn't buy TTK? I'm sure Bungie's paying customers would be [i]more than happy[/i] to have their gameplay experience degraded in order to pacify some freeloaders. Let's go poll them, shall we? [b]TL;DR:[/b] The OP badly needs a TL;DR. It also makes a number of false accusations/assumptions and to cater to non-paying customers would hurt the experience of those who actually did care enough to buy the latest expansion.

Holy wall of text, Batman!

Who cares about money. If you enjoy the game just pay for the stuff you get with it. Everyone on these forums makes it sound like the dlc is about to cost them there life savings.