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12/27/2015 8:39:40 PM
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Hardscoping is fine. Its a sniper, knock yourself out.
The fact of the matter is, any reject can sit aimed in at head level perfectly still, waiting for someone to come around a corner, letting the scope stick onto their skulls just long enough to react and tap a trigger for the easist kill in the game....
No counter to it. No aim required. Nothing. Just tap R2, realign, and keep waiting. Its what the bad snipers do, and theres tons of them, hence why its so rampant.
THATS what annoys people. The fact that a trash player can dome you without moving his anolog stick, and feel all high and mighty under the illusion of being a skilled shot.
The good snipers are fair game. Its the aim assist fishing, double body shot, mediocre snipers that infest crucible.
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Well you could stop walking down the same hallway over and over after you realize someone is trying to hold it down...but that takes too much thinking
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Its not a problem you can just avoid. ANY corner is prone to this, and given how corner and sightline friendly these maps are, its not that simple. If it where, I wouldnt have an issue. Cauldron Shores of Time Twilight Gap Rusted Lands Burning Shrine Firebase Delphi Black Shield Anomoly Asylum The list goes on. Every map has at least 1 major chokepoint where swift traversal and map flow are the key to keep the action going. Even if avoiding these sightlines were a solution, it would slow the pace of PvP to a near halt. Either way, its an issue, and people are fed up with it.
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Actually the best snipers in the world do this, it's called staying safe
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The best snipers rely on the trust and confidence they have in thier own aim. Excluding in reality of course, but this isnt reality.
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If in reality snipers stay still and hard scope why are you little girls crying about it happening in a game. Everyone wants a realistic game but everything that is realistic in a SkiFi game people complain about, hey you may as well as complain about your life
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Editado por xFerrariF300: 12/28/2015 1:04:51 AMOk bud, you are way out in left field with that rant. Let me help you get back on track. This ISNT reality, and no one is trying to make it realistic, still with me? Im trying to balance out the game so we can all enjoy ourselves, but you stand there and whine because a few posts are ruining your day. Boo hoo. NO ONE so far has stated they want a realistic game. This is as far from realism as you can get so I dont know what picture book youre pulling these ideas from. Have I lost you yet? What does my life have to do with anything? What? You cant discuss matters in a game without your personal life being involved? Keep us out of your issues thank you very much. Anything else you need straightened? Good, have a happy new year.
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Editado por walter white130: 12/28/2015 3:38:43 AMSo the fact that a sniper cant kill someone with a chest shot isnt balanced to you. Like what do you people want a sniper that has to land 2 headshots pleas tell us how your gonna balance a gun that should already kill you with a chest shot.
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What the hell are you talking about? You've lost your marbles completely, or just cant read. Regardless, its not my problem. Come back when you can hold a logical conversation.
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Agreed. Ever since shotguns got unjustifiably nerfed into the ground in early December (thanks whiners) all the sheeple have switched to sniper rifles. Now seeing as they don't know how to actually move and snipe at the same time (or even to snipe without relying on the copious amounts of AA) they'll just prescope high traffic areas. If we were to remove all the extra AA, undo the most recent shotgun nerf, and greatly reduce the special ammo availability in PvP, this problem should be greatly reduced, if not removed entirely. But this won't happen because Bungie will cater to the vocal mediocre players.
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I agree with removing the AA from snipers. It's stupid that they ever had it. I'll never be able to snipe again, but I don't care, never really sniped much anyway. As for the Shotgun nerf, absolutely DO NOT roll that back. If anything, make it worse. Shotguns are a plague on Crucible, and could be its downfall. I hate sliding shotgun idiots. I hate running shotgun idiots. Use some damn skill and shoot stuff in this shooting game. In conclusion, nerf Snipers, nerf Shotguns again (to oblivion, I really don't care). Leave primaries alone.
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Shotguns take just as much skill as snipers now. If you're constantly getting killed by shotguns then you need to work on your awareness.
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I don't think you understood. Destroy Shotguns. Make them die a sad death and never bring them back. I haven't been killed much by them lately, and I don't care. Burn them in fire. Make the range one tenth of melee. Make the damage one 100th of a single Khvostov round in Iron Banner. DESTROY SHOTGUNS AND NEVER BRING THEM BACK! Was I clear this time? I wanna make sure I was clear this time. It's important to be clear.
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It's people like you who bring ruin to this game. What is your beef with shotguns? They kill you in close range as designed. No skill to slide shotgun? It's a matter of timing and aim, skill. If a weapon makes you feel this angry you should try taking your face out of the scope to notice death standing next to you. No weapon should be removed or nerfed to uselessness. They all kill as intended, that's what guns do.
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I'm so glad Bungie sides with me. Being 1hk from anything isn't fun. Look, I'm normally the first one to scream "don't nerf it!" But shotties were insane, and needed something to happen to them. I've said several times that I think that Shaxx should say "special ammo inbound". Then you could buff shotties again.
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So 1hk from a sniper is supposed to be better than 1hk from a shotgun to your face? It's no different, still one shot.
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I understood you the first time, no need for more venom. How are shotguns a plague in the Crucible? Eight out of ten people use snipers and 7 out of those eight camp and prescope corners.
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"Undo the most recent shotgun nerf" No. Shotguns are a plague the way they were. The way they are now, I actually don't remember being killed by one for a while, so maybe I have my wish already. Merry Christmas to me. I wasn't really paying attention, but now I will. I hope they're dead and gone forever. On the other hand, if I could just hear Shaxx say "Special Ammo Inbound" and then "Special Ammo Available", I would be okay with shotties coming back to full, pre nerf (back to vanilla) levels. Special ammo needs to be as rare as heavy. You should loose it if you die. You should start the match with no special ammo.
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A special ammo reduction would fix both without any extreme nerfs, just minor tweaks.
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I agree, a massive special ammo reduction. So massive, we should hear Shax say "Special Ammo inbound!"
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"Good players" can dome you without moving their analogue stick too. They just wait closer to the corner than "bad players" do, with their gun, also, scoped in at head level. Maybe strafe a little?
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Its the same concept. Its a crutch tactic for bad players. Whether it be close or long range, relying on the AA to hook a target and tap the trigger for a kill shouldnt be possible. Same goes for relying on double taps becuase of the readily available ammo. Now, if im caught outside, and a player notices me, scopes in, and domes with me faster than I can return fire (especially if im in a roaming super), its fair game. He lined up a shot manualy, quickly, and efficiently. Kudos to him.
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So you expect yourself, using a primary, and someone else with a sniper to pull his out mid-firefight to snipe you to be fair? Otherwise if he snipes you while you weren't looking, he hard scoped?
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Can you quote where the hell I said he had to switch to the rifle? Hes out in the open, he should have the rifle already... Im caught down an open sightline with a primary, and get domed by someone with a rifle out at the range they are intended to dominate at because he lined up and took the shot, not because he sat there waiting for the scope to stick to me as I turn a corner.... Simple. Its the people who rely on that sticky aim that upset people, along with putting 3 scout shots into a sniper and still getting domed becuase of the sticky scope reducing flinch as a result of the slowdown.
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[quote]switch to the rifle[/quote]
