My preference is id rather play with someone who's 300 then a 290. Is that so hard to understand? Lol. Like a dude, enjoy your 290 raid I got nothing against that. I don't lack skill in social skills, you're just assuming that because I'd rather play with 300+ players? Please guy, your logic is just wow... just because I don't want to carry some scrub who's going to argue with me that his fusion rifle is better then a sniper for war priest. (Has happened)
I've had way more bad run ins with less experienced players then higher experience. It's the fact they're not on the same page. I've seen inexperience players rage at each other over things in the raid that would have never happened if they knew what they were doing. How's me wanting to join a group of 300's ignorant? I'd rather not waste my time with noobs, therefore I'm ignorant in your book.
Logic. Please try it.
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... Tuh, see you still don't get it dude. I said that judging players who don't have certain *weapons* and calling them "inexperienced" and "noobs" is ignorant. I've met players who're light lvl 300+ screw up and insult each other more times than I have 295s. "Lol" ":0" Having a certain weapon doesn't dictate "experience" dude. Now sit down. Equality and common sense. You should try it.
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What you think i didn't know that? Of course somebody could have the same amount of experience as somebody with a ToM. But the ToM is a symbol of somebody who's completed the raid and knows what they're doing. In general anybody with the raid emblem is raid worthy of course. But one thing I disagree with you is equality. Not everyone is equal in experience in raids. I'm pretty sure the higher the light somebody is, they know the raid more then somebody who's lower (unless they infused 310 exotics without touching the raid) If you're 295+ have a decent sniper and know the raid mechanics that's all I really look for. But if I see a group asking for 300+ with ridiculous requirements? I'm joining that one because these players 9/10 times know what they're doing and hate wasting time. If I'm short on time I'd rather join the fireteam full 300's over 290's. Don't like that? Too bad. Go play your way. I play my way.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 1:06:15 AMBy your logic then back when those old raids were irrelevant, Ghorn was too. :/ And I like how you acknowledge the fact that those requirements are ridiculous. What next? You gonna join groups where you "need" to have the Kellbreaker emblem? XD
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Ghorn was RNG based. People who asked for ghorn only were retarded ToM and spindle are obtainable if you have skill and time. People who ask for those weapons for a raid arnt total ass holes asking for luck drops. They know if you have those weapons you probably know what you're doing.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 1:11:34 AMToM? Skill-based? Heh...And Black Spindle? ... Riiiggghhhttt because Black Spindle something that you may have missed getting is totallyyy "skill" based especially since it drops at 290 now. But yeah you can get carried to get that dude... ToM? You can be carried through the raid and get the stuff, plus you can use a Destiny tracker to obtain the fragments and such.
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 1:15:49 AMPeople have had plenty of opportunities to get Spindle. If you don't have it by now, then sucks for you( I wasn't around the first 2 times). People who couldn't beat it because it was "too hard" well then Git gud. ToM you actually have to beat the raid, so yea I count that as a land Mark on your raid history. But if you got carried through the whole thing, then wow Git gud too. But you better learn the raid quick or else face a party full of people who will think you suck. Like I said dude "most" know what they're doing, not all.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 1:34:54 AMAll and all you don't 'need' those weapons but whatever floats the elitist boat. If by "most" I'm pretty sure you only mean thoe people who crutch with those things. :/
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 1:42:09 AMWait are you trying to say people who use ToM or spindle are crutches? >.> If it makes the game easier why not use it?
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Annnddd you just reached the event horizon of ignorance. Nothing wrong with using it but requiring it just to join a raid team is stupid as hell man. I'm pretty sure you'll try and think up any reason just to justify the bullshit reasons for making silly requirements for players to join a group. :/
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 1:59:45 AMNever said I require it. I just join groups with the requirements. You keep assuming I form raid teams with these requirements lol. Did somebody have a bad run in when they were 293 or something? Were you kicked because you couldn't DPS enough one time? Please guy, read carefully before you ASSume. I feel like you're one of those people who accept anyone in their raid only to have everyone leave at some point because not everyone was raid capable.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 2:07:53 AMNot really, I have friends who do the raid and I don't join raiders who have dumb requirements. You may not require it yourself but you sure do defend it as if it were. Please dude "KUNTinue" to defend it. Actually? I allow anyone to join. Explain for like maybe 1-3 minutes and make the raid a breeze. Can you say the same for your idiotic crutch wielding self? :/
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Heh, keep cussing at me. Sure is helping your case ;)
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Yesss because obviously saying "ASSume" is helping yours. ";)"
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It's in the word. Assume is a word. Please. Kuntinue is not. Please, go back to school. Where insults are a proper way to win a argument with your kiddy friends.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 2:25:28 AMAssassination has it twice but you don't see me putting emphasis on it unlike you. I only said "KUNTinue" because you said "ASSume". Come on now... How about you stop cussing and then maybe you won't be cussed out? Just a tip. Mhmmm... Please don't be a dropout and stop getting insults from the run-of-the-mill-online-douchebags you hang out with. I mean, "kiddy"? Really? :/
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 2:27:27 AMTotally irrelevant. Nice try though. If you cut up assume it's, Ass-u-Me. That's how it was formed. Assuming is just making a ass out of you and me. So please don't do it when in a argument. You're going to get shot down. Insults are the ultimate sign that a argument is over. If one party resorts to mud slinging it's just a clear sign it is over for their side. Stating opinions as facts is also a shutdown.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 2:27:54 AMThen by your logic, it was over when you started. :l "Nice try though".
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[quote]The requirements of a doucheschnozzel...[/quote] Here you go.
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 2:30:31 AMWhen I said, "you simply suck" It was a general statement to people if you can't get weapons in a game that has been out for a month. You subtlety called me a douche, after a certain amount of time.
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Editado por john_osborne: 10/21/2015 2:35:35 AMBut you said you don't make the requirements? I'm only calling those who make these silly requirements as doucheschnozzels... Unless you admit you're one of these people? :l I never called you a douche only that you're giving that impression off a bit and until that "ASSume" comment you pretty much turned into one at that point.
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 2:38:28 AMCan we just get over the fact we both have different preferences when finding fire teams? This conversations is fûcking retarded because we both have different opinions and will just end insulting each other. I can do this everyday, but id prefer not to. Mine is I'd rather join a fireteam with better gear and more experience. Your's is to let everyone in or join your friends. TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT opinions. You do you. I do me.
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Is that what you thought my preferences were? My preference is to not be an asshole unless needed to be and make silly requirements. Seems you and your teammates should learn a thing or two from that.
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Editado por Urban Shade: 10/21/2015 3:10:07 AMKeeps on assuming people with high requirements are douches. Btw, I Sherpa on my free time. Carried my clan mates, randoms, and real life friends through trials, raids, PoE, etc. Keep on assuming will ya. It's when I don't have time I join the random elitist because my buds arnt always on.
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... Wait didn't you even say those requirements are silly? And I think you need to stop assuming stuff about me. :/
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They're silly but most of the time when I join said groups we just breeze through the raid.