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Editado por bren12310:
10/19/2015 1:58:36 PM
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Proof that Hammer of Sol IS NOT op!!! (And what actually is OP)
[u][b][i]TLDR? Just skip to the conclusion[/i][/b][/u]
I have a reputation to be incredibly sucky at PvP and the other day I decided to level up my warlock in the crucible. As you could guess I ran into numerous sunbreaker and it took me a while but I eventually found out how to take them out easily.
Use my stormcaller
Get up close to them
Run in circles
It works about 75% of the time and its rarely ever a bad defeat, I always get their health low. I did this to about 20-25 sunbreakers
As for hunters who are bitching that they can't take out a sunbreaker, shut the -blam!- up, you have the 1 super that can guarantee you to take them down.
Now the ONLY super that I could not find a way to either evade it or kill the user is still and always will be golden gun.
In average speed, a hammer thrown by a sunbreaker doesn't move that fast so I can still dodge it, a golden gun on the other hand goes like 9000mph.
Plus when I get killed by a sunbreaker i know it's coming, a golden gun it's just like BAM! No time at all to react.
Yes, golden gun is only 3 shots (4 with a helmet) but it is a lot easier to get kills with. Whenever I use my golden gun on my hunter I can get 3 kills easily. With sunbreaker it's the same thing but usually have to
use a few hammers to hit someone because only a moron would stay in my path (just like how only a moron would stay in a golden guns path)
[u][b][i]In conclusion[/i][/b] [/u]
Golden gun is just as OP as sunbreaker the community is just new to sunbreaker so they don't know how to handle it. However there is a large group of people (mainly hunters) who are to ignorant and bitchy to admit it
Edit: Going to make a montage of me killing sunbreakers for proof whenever I figure out how to make a montage...
Edit: so many butt hurt hunters... Butt hurt, we need you here
Said by Lullabies
[quote]How about this problem:
[b][i][u]NIGHT STALKER[/u][/i][/b]
-Takes away your super
-takes away your grenade
-takes away your punch
-takes away your double jump
-can kill you if direct hit
-has an infinite glitch now (but you still complain about hammers right people...)
-slows movement speed by over 75%
-causes damage output to be less than 75% by person tethered
-causes damage resistance to be less than 50% by person tethered (takes 3 sidearm shots to kill tetheree 1 sniper body shot)
-damage resistance while in animation of shooting the bow
If anyone wants to call a super OP call the Night Stalker OP. Once again bitchy hunters have the retarded super...[/quote]
English
#Destiny
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TL;DR - any super that is not a titan super is op because titans
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Actually a full armor sunbreaker can survive a golden gun shot as well as a headshot from any sniper with impact at 1000 yard stare or lower. That's more damage than a bladedancer can eat plus you don't have to be up close
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6 RespuestasEditado por dontloveFIERRO: 10/19/2015 9:46:52 PMYes, golden gun is only 3 shots (4 with a helmet) but it is a lot easier to get kills with. Whenever I use my golden gun on my hunter I can get 3 kills easily. Don't need to lie friend. You have ONE "way of the gun medal." Only fukin ONE! Which means you only got 3 kills with golden gun 1 time. You also have 5 "hammer and tongs" medals. Which means in the Month that TTK has been out you have received more "super" specific medals on hammer of sol, than you did in all of year one with a gun slinger. So continue to say that golden gun is more op than your hammer.
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You must be really, really bad if you can only get three kills with hammer of sol. Tracking and explosive pyre with cauterize and throw more hammers = easy mode. I love it but if anything I think they should just reduce the damage reduction just a little bit. A skilled sniper with high impact should be a one hit kill with a headshot. And if you're dumb enough to fall point blank into a high impact shotgun it should be one hit kill. You will still be able to get easy killing sprees but be a little smarter about how you use it instead of just run and jump and throw hammers at everything lol. Just like how golden gun has to be strategic since they are very squishy. If you run and just pop golden gun around people you will be killed before you get one shot off. Now I'm not saying hammer of sol should be squishy they should definitely still have damage reduction, just less.
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Op is just a Hunter hatin a$s b!tch, that can't realize that Hos is Op. There's no denying it.
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Editado por Afawafa: 10/20/2015 4:00:43 PM[u]Voidwalker/Striker[/u] -Takes away supers -Takes away grenades -Takes away melee -Takes away weapons -Takes away movement -Reduces damage target deals to 0 -0 additional damage needed to kill target -Slows movement speed by 100% -Kills everything even with non-direct hits -Damage resistance while casting Supression simply makes enemies easier to kill. If you look at it from another perspective, it's just a roundabout way of achieving what other offensive supers can do immediately. There really isn't any debuff that's more potent than death.
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Dude hammer of sol IS OP like , it takes 2 GG shots to bring it down , making it almost a walking bubble
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3 RespuestasThis is why Nightstalker suppression isn't that great. It's unreliable and has a delay before suppression. Even on a direct hit. Watch the vid. It isn't my vid though.
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4 RespuestasHunters have a SUPER that can shut down sunbreakers Titans have GRENADES that can do the same thing
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Bungie in year one: "A ranged super with multiple projectiles? Good lord, we better not give it any damage resistance otherwise it will be OP." Bungie in year two: "A ranged super with more projectiles than Golden Gun? Well there's a slight arc and travel time that even a 5 year old could learn to use... Let's give it the most health and heal them after each kill. Wouldn't want them to die in their super." Brilliance
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The shadow shot is not an instant cancel. It takes just long enough for a titan to toss one more hammer to cancel out the super. Whether or not that matters, I don't know.
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They can easily nail you out of the air
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I'm laughing about the golden gun bit loks and Titans can survive a shot and shadow shot does nothing to tethered enemy damage output
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Um video proof to back this up?
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Im to lazy to read that much.
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I'm failing to see the proof. Where is it?
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Nightstalker arrow shot doesn't take away super on impact dude.... it's the tether after....do UK how frustrating that is? No
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FYI I'm not gonna read your butt hurt comments so there's really no use posting them
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2 RespuestasDingus alert
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10 RespuestasEditado por Mini Gaunt: 10/19/2015 12:11:12 PMThe reason Hammer of Sol is the best super by far is while in terms of just hammers they are on par with golden guns shots because you have more hammers that do the same damage but are not instant. That is balance. What is not balanced is the tankiness of the super. Sunbreakers having 55% damage reduction is completely insane compared to every other roaming super. IMO the hammers are better than golden gun but that point aside. Hammer of Sol should not survive so many things and still be a roaming super capable of out damaging golden gun, on top of that (without throwing hammers) having the longest super ever. Hammer of Sol can survive a golden gun shot (max armor, which is what most people run) and headshots from all snipers excluding black spindle. The proposed fix to make it balanced is to reduce armor to 30%-40% damage reduction. That would keep most of the things that are good with the super without nerfing it into the ground, because balance is still important. I tried to make the post as unbiased as possible because that is a thing alot of people seem to forget. Whether or not you agree or disagree, the fix is reasonable to balance supers. Edit: The proposed changes make the super able to be countered like most of the other roaming supers, and no, running is not a counter.
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You don't have damage resistance that matters within the Nightstalker super, you're still one-shotted by hammers and low-impact snipers. Nightstalker has a delay on activation too, you have enough time to run away easily if it's quiver. You also have enough time to kill me if you're mid super.
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Nightstalker does those things, AFTER YES FÜCKING AFTER, NOT INSTANTLY AFTER I DONT KNOW HOW I CAN FURTHER SPELL THIS OUT BUT, A F T E R. A few 3-5 seconds have passed. If a Titan has already popped his super, it'll kill you before shadowshot shuts it off. A F T E R
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Editado por Kilerdrake: 10/19/2015 7:45:47 PMI have lost respect for you, Necrobump Ninja. You were the hope of the Necrobumps. Now you joined the salty side.
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Consider this. Sunbreaker is the only super where it's disappointing when you only get three kills. Three kills would be a success for any other super. I played Iron Banner with all three classes and rarely ever got more than two kills with my Warlock or Hunter. Then I hopped on my Titan and wiped out the entire other team with my hammer twice within 5 or so matches.
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Ok now I will give you this, the Sunbreaker is not nearly as bad as everyone says, but the damage resistance needs to be toned down. This issue was seen early in year one with the Bladedancer. Remember that? Serious problem and EVERYONE bitched about it. Now I see where you're coming from with GG, but it's easily countered with a skilled hand using any special weapon (exclude sidearm). To counter the GG argument, no damage resistance at all while GG is active. Plus, it is still pretty easy to miss. Same could be said for hammers, but they track, and explode in proximity with the right perk. And you have about 5. Not to mention the shoulder charge ability you can have. But I wouldn't mind any of that if the damage resistance was manageable. However, like I said, it's not as big of a problem as people claim, lots of people (yes, us Hunters mainly) just love to complain. To address the Nightstalker, (my personal favorite) I would say that it's pretty balanced if you don't include the glitch, but I won't go further into that unless someone asks.
