[spoiler]All Hunters please read paragraph 4 first.[/spoiler] Sign here if you want Hunters to -blam!- off and quit bitching about the Sunbreaker class. We Titans finally get something that actually puts us on par with the other classes and all you hear from them is "this is bullshit. Now we actually have to work at being good in crucible, it's not fair now that we are all balanced and hunters aren't the gods of crucible. We demand a nerf cause we're a bunch of whinny -blam!- who don't want to have to get gud." My fellow Titans. It is time to stand together against our true enemies. We have met the enemy, and they are ours. The hunters have fallen to the Darkness. They have been Taken. We must do the mercifully thing and slaughter them when we can. There are still many Hunters out there who have not fallen to the Darkness and support our fight against the Taken hunters. These brave souls are true warriors. Buy them a beer when you see them. Warlocks? You guys just keep doing whatever it is you do. Rock on bros. [spoiler]all Titans I ask that you change your profile pic and theme to one of the Sunbreaker ones to show your support for our cause[/spoiler] Thanks to mG RoNin. Who made a really good point to me. First I want to state again that there are plenty (in fact the majority) of Hunters who are not crying for a nerf. I mentioned and praised these Hunters in the thread. I guess some just didn't see it. I would like to make it clear that I am not attacking all Hunters. Just this minority that you see on the forums raging about nerfs. Id also like to point out that it is not just Hunters thy are doing this. There are also plenty of Warlocks and even traitor Titans that are doing the same thing. These guys are as equally bad and this thread was directed at them as much as it was the Hunter bitches. The reason i titled this at hunters is because they do make up the majority of the complainers (that I have personally seen). But they are in no way the only ones doing it. You Warlocks enjoying the show? [spoiler]For everyone saying GG should one shot kill SB, I leave this for you. As for GG let me give you a scenario. Titan and Hunter come across each other in open area at mid range. Both activate supers at the same time. The GG fires faster, travels faster, more accurate, can have 3 to 4 shots, but requires 2 shots to kill the SB. The SB has more hammers, the ability to have minor tracking, AoE, has high armor. and can survive on GG shot. But he also has to arch his hammers in order to hit. They are far slower then GG, Can be seen coming and dodged by jumping. Now logically, the the out come of this conflict SHOULD be a toss up of either one wining, since it's BALANCED, or both die. The issue people have is not that it takes more then on GG to kill SB because that means SB is op. It is because the GG users are so used to getting 3 or 4 one shot kills and can't fathom the preposterously insane idea of having to actually use TWO HOLE SHOTS, to kill one dude. They want to just one shot us and turn and walk away like billy badass and get 3 more kills. But now there's a super that actually challenges that and now it's "how dare Bungie make a super that can challenge the mighty hunter". Just shot the SB twice with your GG and your good. Why is that so hard? If we did what we you suggest and nerf the armor on the SB to where one GG kills him, then the scenario I just mentioned above would result in the GG winning EVERY SINGLE TIME, while having plenty of time to casually dodge the 1 or 2 hammers that were thrown at him, before going to get 2 or 3 more kills. And then we would be right back to hunters being the PVP "masterrace" How do you think that is fair? Can you not see the balance that is now in place? SBs armor buff is to there to make up for its lack of speed and accuracy which puts it on par with the GG. Do you understand now?" Thoughts?[/spoiler]