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Editado por Dangly: 8/16/2015 7:05:56 AM
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Let's face it... This NEEDS to change or Destiny is DEAD

Xur. Being able to buy such unique and powerful weapons from a vendor is ridiculous. I've seen a ton of ideas on ways to fix him, and I don't care how he gets fixed, I just want it fixed by the time Taken King comes out. I want to wear exotics that when people see me wearing it they say "Man.. How'd he get that? That's so rare!" And not "Man.. I hope Xur sells it this week!" Take Hawkmoon and Gjallarhorn for example. Before Gjallarhorn was sold this week, it was the most sought after and most rare weapon alongside Hawkmoon and that is due to it not being sold by Xur ever except for well two when nobody wanted an exotic heavy. Right now, 'exotic' is not a fitting term for that tier of weapons. The Taken King is a step in the right direction with quests and such to get the new exotics, but I don't want to go through getting a new exotic weapon or armor and being excited that I will be among the few to have it only to have Xur sell it that week and just be one of the millions that got it. I get that you earn strange coins and that some exotics just won't drop for you. I'm missing the Hawkmoon and the Crux, but I'd never want Xur to sell such elusive items. It takes away their rarity and it becomes just another "exotic" that everyone has. With all the steps Taken King is taking to move forward, not doing something about Xur would be 50 steps back. This is very much a shoot and loot game, and having some of the most sought after items be easily obtained through a vendor does not create epic moments at all. I, for one, do not feel like I've "Become Legend" after [i] buying[/i] an [i] exotic[/i] weapon. I hope to see this changed; it needs to happen. Edit- With all this said, I understand why the current Xur is important to people. Since RNG is cruel, is nice to have a guaranteed way of getting that one item you want. I'm not bashing people who "Xurn" I'm just saying that I think there needs to be a better system in place Edit 2- I've taken out the part about losing value in exotics when Xur sells them bc you guys are right, what does it matter? There is no trading/barter system anyways. Also, for those of you calling me elitist, I'm not being elitist. I'm not being a special snow flake or whatever. I'm literally just wanting there to be a legitimate way of earning exotics. I don't see how I'm being elitist when I said I want people to admire rare armor I have. I mean, I want to look like a badass like nobody has seen so they'll be like "wow he did a lot of crap to get that". So yeah try not throwing around terms you kids read on the internet without knowing what they mean.
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  • My problem isn't with your suggestion or what you'd like to happen, but with your subject. Way too many "If X doesn't change, get removed, get added, etc. then Destiny is dead" threads.

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    • [quote]Xur. Being able to buy such unique and powerful weapons from a vendor is ridiculous. I've seen a ton of ideas on ways to fix him, and I don't care how he gets fixed, I just want it fixed by the time Taken King comes out. I want to wear exotics that when people see me wearing it they say "Man.. How'd he get that? That's so rare!" And not "Man.. I hope Xur sells it this week!" Take Hawkmoon and Gjallarhorn for example. Before Gjallarhorn was sold this week, it was the most sought after and most rare weapon alongside Hawkmoon and that is due to it not being sold by Xur ever except for well two when nobody wanted an exotic heavy. Right now, 'exotic' is not a fitting term for that tier of weapons. The Taken King is a step in the right direction with quests and such to get the new exotics, but I don't want to go through getting a new exotic weapon or armor and being excited that I will be among the few to have it only to have Xur sell it that week and just be one of the millions that got it. I get that you earn strange coins and that some exotics just won't drop for you. I'm missing the Hawkmoon and the Crux, but I'd never want Xur to sell such elusive items. It takes away their rarity and it becomes just another "exotic" that everyone has. With all the steps Taken King is taking to move forward, not doing something about Xur would be 50 steps back. This is very much a shoot and loot game, and having some of the most sought after items be easily obtained through a vendor does not create epic moments at all. I, for one, do not feel like I've "Become Legend" after [i] buying[/i] an [i] exotic[/i] weapon. I hope to see this changed; it needs to happen. Edit- With all this said, I understand why the current Xur is important to people. Since RNG is cruel, is nice to have a guaranteed way of getting that one item you want. I'm not bashing people who "Xurn" I'm just saying that I think there needs to be a better system in place Edit 2- I've taken out the part about losing value in exotics when Xur sells them bc you guys are right, what does it matter? There is no trading/barter system anyways. Also, for those of you calling me elitist, I'm not being elitist. I'm not being a special snow flake or whatever. I'm literally just wanting there to be a legitimate way of earning exotics. I don't see how I'm being elitist when I said I want people to admire rare armor I have. I mean, I want to look like a badass like nobody has seen so they'll be like "wow he did a lot of crap to get that". So yeah try not throwing around terms you kids read on the internet without knowing what they mean.[/quote] Fair points. However, since there is a limited number of exotics and a hell of a lot more players than said exotics, odds are you'll never be one of the only ones to have a piece of gear. Instead of people hating on Xur they should be capitalising on what ever he may be selling.

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    • Oh for -blam!-s sake. My buckets are already full, I'm Gonna have to go and get some more for these salty mother-blam!-ers

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    • The only gun I've bought from xur was icebreaker. I go for my drops instead of buying from xur so I can get those drops.

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    • Editado por AVeryStrangeCoin: 8/16/2015 11:06:55 PM
      Okay now that you changed the wording of your post I agree either you. Maybe xur could sell bountus to deal with certain exotic weapons and armor and you have to do them in order to get the gear. They should be made hard bounties also.

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    • Read the very first word. Stopped reading.

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      • Since they are changing RNG to be less random there should be no reason for xur to sell exotics anymore. Getting drops is more exciting anyway.

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      • I don't go into the tower and ogle what everyone is wearing, I pick up and turn in bounties. I see the cryptarch. I worry about my legend in the making. I am not worried about your armor, your guns, your shader. We share some areas in the world. You having top tier guns and armor do not help nor hinder me. I have friends to help me with most activities I want to complete who also have great gear, earned in multiple ways. I hope you are happy with the gear you have, I'm happy with mine. I was happy with it before Xür "ruined" the game and sold Gjallarhorn. I'll continue to be happy with it as I level up my new boss melter. No you didn't really say he ruined Destiny but many making posts strikingly similar to yours have and will. When you spent your hard earned money on Destiny, whether digital or disk, you bought access to everything Vanilla Destiny had to offer. As you continued you purchases with DLC you continued your contract with Destiny. Some who paid their $95 give or take have had better luck accessing their content than others. Xür is here to help those less fortunate in the luck department.

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        • "Man how'd you get that?" Oh, I just had it randomly given to me after being carried through a raid/strike/going 3 kills 20 deaths in crucible! Yeah, no. -blam!- off.

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          • Lets face it, your opinion wont kill Destiny Good bye

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            • ROFL No way in HELL I'm reading all that sh** "Let me sum up" "I'm 12 and still waiting for my ballz to DROP" If Xur can't sell those then he can't sell Gjallar... Whhaaaaa

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              • I understand what you're saying, and it's cool to be the person with the rare stuff first, but Destiny is suppose to be about group play. There is a ton of team based activities and you should want your teammates to have the best guns available.

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              • Only allow him to sell legendary weapon engrams for 7 or so coins. You have a chance for an exotic, but you also have a chance for a shiny new legendary weapon. This would remove the scarcity of legendary weapons, especially for the casual players that can't do all the weekly activities on all 3 characters. Leave exotics to RNG and quest lines.

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                • Out of all of the posts I've seen this past few days about Xur, this is about the only one with good reasoning and the only one that doesn't hate on people. I applaud you, sir. I shall not post a gif calling you a -blam!- today.

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                • *disagrees with OP* *respects OP's right to an opinion* *doesn't insult OP based on difference of opinion* *wishes OP a nice day*

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                  • Why not just let people play the game how they want and enjoy it? It baffles me that people care so much about how other people obtain weapons or items in the game. You aren't special. This is an RNG loot game and you didn't "earn" anything. The elitism in this community is absolutely unreal. The fact people get this mad about a pixelated object in a videogame is just hilarious.

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                    • I don't think they mean exotic as in rarity or whatever. I think they mean exotics as in a power level with a special perk.

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                    • EXOTICS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE RARE. THEY ARE MEANT TO BE POWERFUL YET UNIQUE WEAPONS AND THE DEFINITION OF EXOTIC IS "DIFFERENT AND OTHERWORLDLY" NOT "UNOBTAINABLE AND ELUSIVE." Sorry you're not a special snowflake anymore [spoiler]Sorry there's just to many of you[/spoiler]

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                    • I feel the same way. I think he should just show up less frequently. Once or twice a month would be fine. When he sold Ice Breaker for the first time, it kinda broke the game. It's pointless to not use the gun in strikes. Before, it was right next to gjallarhorn, hawkawesome and SUROS as being extremely sought out and valued

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                    • Finally someone with some -blam!-ing sense

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                    • I'd love to have an "earn exotics" system, because RNG isn't earning anything at all. the only problem i can see with a quest to get an exotic is that if everyone can do that quest, that weapon will be just as common as if Xur sold it

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                      • Editado por Wolfisaurus: 8/16/2015 9:07:31 PM
                        I think the exotic armor economy is almost entirely dependent on Xûr. Your chances of getting something from Nightfall are 1% or less, an Engram 5% or less and Xûr about 8%(exact armor piece you're looking for.) From everything they have said, Bungie appears to be improving the RNG. I understand why they have Xûr, but I do think it's more rewarding an experience to get a drop from a boss or a quest. This also sounds like it's coming in TTK as well. Whenever I get frustrated with RNG, I take a break. We have to remember that Destiny is new for Bungie and they're learning as they go. Destiny has had its growing pains, but I'm glad I've been here from the beginning. They've said they're making improvements and Game Informer made it sound like the game is vastly improving, but they have to show us. These live streams are going to be very important. They also can't reveal too much. I'm excited.

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                      • That ridiculous but getting a random drop completely by luck isn't? Wow..

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                      • Is there any problem with wanting to be a special snowflake if the players aren't a prick about it?

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                        • Why do u all of a sudden say that it's a problem when he sells "unique and powerful weapons"? He's been selling these unique and powerful weapons since day 1. Ur just another salty Ghorn "Earner."

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                          • If they can fix their busted ass RNG system then I'm all for Xur disappearing or at least ceasing to sell exotics. But until then, Xur is the only semi-reliable way to get the exotics you need.

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