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Editado por oscarsacri:
7/13/2015 12:12:38 AM
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Why crucible is broken
People say that the DoT is what makes thorn unique and you are definately right the DoT is what makes thorn unique, but the DoT power shouldnt be to 2 shot kill you, it should be to keep your shield down so your vulnerable for the amount of time the DoT lasts.
Last word can kill in 10 fractions of a second even when aiming down sights because of its bug. People say buff auto rifles, if they do so and become as powerful as handcannons then you have a game where time to kill is less than cod, and thats not what destiny's pvp is suposed to be.
The meta right now sucks, how do you counter thorn, or last word, you use them, how do you counter felwinters lie, you use it or something like matador, you dont see found verdicts being used anymore, you dont see suros, hardlight or montecarlo being used anymore. Other problem too is grenades and horseshoes, it has literally taken any skill required for a rocket launcher, you dont see machine guns being used anymore. Watch this, everything he says is right, its pretty much crucible in a nutshell. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BHenCd2BWNQ
Edit: Changed title as title did not express my point.
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or simply put - time to kill on exotic hand cannons 0.4 seconds or lower - lag - rockets with proximity overpower everything else - last round and shotgun only players - small maps - bad matchmaking - bad servers #activision - underpowered weapon classes like autorifles and fusion rifles the list goes on if you are really hardcore...
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I also think the time to kill is to quick at the min thats my main reason for wanting the hand cannon nerfs. When the game first came out there wernt many overpowered guns running around and time to kill was lower i enjoyed that alot more as it was more tactical you could use your shield take some damage duck into cover then try again at the mo there is no point having the shield as you die to quick.
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1 RespuestaDo what I do, play another game until Friday comes around and all of them migrate to trials of osiris. Then after 1pm est on Friday the crucible clears up and becomes fun until the reset on Tuesday.
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8 Respuestasgrenades and horseshoes? That really was never a problem. Machine guns aren't used because they are too risky. Its a high rewarding weapon but rockets can easy outclass it. If you have jolders hammer or a btrd then yes you can do pretty good with them
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6 RespuestasThe only reason people come after Thorn and DoT, is they are tired of rushing the Thorn with a shotgun and getting close enough to kill using and only to get killed by DoT. Thorn will only kill even with DoT, with 2 headshot. It is faster just to PPP a third then to wait on Dot to kill. The last word kills in 2 shots and much faster then Thorn. Hawkmoon kills in 1 shot but more often in 2. All legendary hand cannons kill in 3 headshots so what the only difference in a thorn. It would have to be DoT which can kill after the user is gunned down. It still takes 2 headshot to kill which is the same as the last word and Hawkmoon. No one complains about these weapons yet.
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1 RespuestaIdgaf about guns just give us good servers. Forget about homo emblems and garbage. True gamers on pvp want decent connections!
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1 Respuestahand cannons suck already why do they need a nerf
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4 RespuestasBungie would like you to know that they're listening and are thrilled to announce that they'll be adding more quests to the game. Thank you for posting and enjoy the new quests!
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2 RespuestasSo you want to nerf ALL handcannons, and not just the two you have an issue with? Oh wait...they already did it!
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3 RespuestasYea you make slot of sense, DOT is the whole point of Thorn, but it shouldn't actually do any damage to your opponent???? It should just be for bragging rights, you are a genius
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5 RespuestasU dont need to nerf every hc, just ner thorn if ur going to. Lw isnt even op, you people complain about everything. All we really need is a buff to ARs and maybe a slight scout damage buff. Scouts are good as is but a slight damage buff would be nice.
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How do you counter hand cannons? With a pulse rifle.
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13 RespuestasHand cannons are fine nerf thorn and fix the last word.
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8 RespuestasIts whinning comments like this that made de autorifles useless. I dont like it either but I dont go around asking for a nerf everytime i get whooped. Get better thats all there is to it. Every game will always have something something stronger than the other. And there will always be people whinning. Aim for the head.
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I miss using Monte Carlo and being successful in pvp :'(. Granted you can still do well with it but its much more difficult
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2 RespuestasHard light was never good. Suros had its time but was destroyed in last update. Messenger has a top place and can out gun an exotic pulse rifle. (Bad juju) Bad juju is on the verge of been great. Same with mida m tool. Alas currently they are lacking . Not many guns are good right now when compared to last word and thorn. Do u want them nerfed? NO Do I want other great options - YES
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8 RespuestasThe Meesenger is how I counter all weapons. Take them to range and the messenger will do the rest.
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11 RespuestasHand cannons dont need to be nerfed. They dont need to do anything to them till shotguns are fixed. Shotguns still kill in one shot. Thorn takes 3 unless you get a headshot then it is 2. Most of the maps are shotgun biased, so unless they do something about shotguns, there is no need to fix anything else. Except lag they need to fix that crap.
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Change the topic pls. Im with you on the exotics, but nerfing the entire handcannon class isnt necessary and shouldnt be promoted.
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4 RespuestasYou counter thorn with red death and you counter shotguns with a super or a sniper or another shotgun. Side note: if you're not good at crucible then none of these counters will work.
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Range nerf. Complete BS that I get Last Word sniped from across the map.
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2 RespuestasHandcannons do not need a nerf.Plain and simple. Just because 2-3 of them are OP doesnt mean the whole class should get nerfed. This is the same problem from which the Autorifle nerf stemmed. Everyone was using Suros and calling for nerfs and they ruined pretty much the whole class. Shotguns do need to be dropped to a 2 hit, and their range needs to be reduced. This isnt real life it is a video Game. Guardians in Crucible should have Health much like Fallen Captains with Yellow bars. I can one shot someone with my found Verdict but i have to 2-3 shot those guys, especially when shielded. The reason they where one shot in Halo was you had to find and pick one up, it wasnt readily available to everyone at all times. Even in CoD the kill times with shotguns vary.
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2 RespuestasLast Word can kill you in under 10 frames. Aka 1/6 of a second. Yeah, kinda op
