Okay here it goes. Yes this is a rant/complaint about thorn. Your getting the input on a guy who is on ps4 who has been playing pvp since beta. Currently top 25 In the tracker on ps4. Here's the deal. Thorn. It's getting old, it really is. Going into a ToO match is a joke because literally every fireteam you face are all using thorn. This is a call out on good players. Really guys? For all you top 1,000 players using it. Your a joke. Thorn is a crutch weapon. The average Joes should be the only ones using it against skilled players like us. Skilled players shouldn't roll on crutchs because everyone else is using it period. I've never liked thorn and I never will. HAWKMOON. Anyway. Getting back to thorn. It needs to be nerfed already , it does.. A guy put together a based stat on teams who went flawless with Handcannons. 70% used thorn 22 % used last word, and only 8% used hawkmoon. Really destiny community? We're better then that. We are. Letting one gun rule them all is a joke. I suggest a very good way to smooth thorn out. I know alot of you thorn users are like "but tlw and hawkmoon 2 shot! Don't nerf thorn poison, it will be weak!" Here's a solid solution. Don't nerf the damage, don't nerf the poison. Keep it a 2 shot gun so it keeps up with TLW and Hawkmoon. Nerf the stability or the range. Make it a actual challenging gun to use. Instead of the typical 2 heads shots and run away tactic. Bungie get off your lazy arses and take notice to this already. You nerfed auto rifles because they were the most used weapons in the game for a certain period. Look at thorn. The past 3 weeks trails has been Thorns of Osiris. Fix it.
Before any of you tell me to get gud or call me a blink shotgun noob. Yes I do. I abuse my shotgun. Why? Because I have a better chance blink shotgunnin thorn users close/medium range then I do with hawkmoon. Thorns RoT and the poison overwhelm it sometimes. Don't get me wrong I outgun 80% of thorn users but that's usually when it's a 50 meter + gun fight. I just shouldn't burn out after I outgun thorn users.
Okay here comes the thorn defenders! Let the hate flow.
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Okay I see alot of feelings hurt and people crying cause I made the post and they say I'm whining. I don't speak for myself I speak for alot of the community aswell. Don't think this is just another guy complaining about a weapon he died to. I rarely die to it. I'm speaking out for all the players aswell who have a hard time defending themselves against thorners.
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For alot or you guys who can't read aswell. This isn't a cry about 1v1 thorn users. It's about their not being any diversity in the community anymore. So much toxic aswell from you top players in destiny. It's sad
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Wow we're trending 600 replies! Hit that like button and leave a comment. Bump it so bungie actually truly see's this as a problem.!
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And no this is not a ego Booster. I'm not trying to build up my legacy or polish my sweaty forehead. This was just a post letting the community know there are highly skilled players out there who don't use thorn and do know that it is ridiculous. I salute all you non thorn users. Keep it up!
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If everyone is using the same gun then it's all equal its it. Now it all comes down to skill who is the better
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The way you use paragraphs, which seems to be similar to this games RNG, is interesting.
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2 RespuestasWell personally, I think of Oni chichi, cause that's what gets my spire to rise That an asuna.....and maybe lizbeth too And I'm not completely against having a relationship with my own sister, since she was up for it when I met her as leafa..., she's also really my cousin and not related by blood soooooo......
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1 RespuestaAll I got to say is red death for life
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10 RespuestasOr you could buff auto rifles so they do a little more damage, i was out gunning the thorn with my shadow price all the time from mid range.
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1 RespuestaAverage player here. I'm sick of thorn. I'm sick of being killed by it, sure. I'm MORE sick of feeling like I HAVE to use mine in return to stand even half a chance.
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4 Respuestas
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Stoped at top 25 in tracker, do you know that doesn't matter at all right?
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They just need to make the thorn burn have less ticks OR make the burn not be able to kill you but leave you at 1%
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Bump af
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All hand cannons need their range and bullet drop changing. Personally I use any weapon I have on me to change it up during ToO. They get used to me playing with No Land Beyond then switch to a more close ranged weapon. Hard Light isn't good head on but it bounces off walls so when their around corners spray them they run away use that to run around and finish them off. I've had thorn since the 3rd week. Back then it was bad. The devour did 7 damage per 3 seconds. And made it redundant vs many other weapons. However there is a huge increase on handcannon users so they needs to be changes. Best bet would be to drop the bullet. Since ain't no way a thorn should snipe someone camping with a sniper xD The OP is right that it needs changing but people aren't used to change. That's why there is always rants and people "crying" over something that should change. Auto rifles and fusion rifles used to rule the crucible. Now its hand cannons and shotgunsnipers (long range shotguns) Changes were made and changes will be made as new guns are brought out.
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Editado por WarlockBoy: 6/28/2015 9:29:26 AMMe and friend wanted to do ToO yesterday...we got our loss and free win buffs and went in. It was our first try at ToO(cause he wanted hunter boots) our first match with thorns we got 0-3 then we managed to clutch to 3-3 but they eventually won. Next match we got rekt but an aggressive thorn team. 2 hits then hide that's what I seen. we did another match we got 3-0(they didn't have thorn then) then they all switched to thorn and we lost, friend got disconnected from his ps4(his issue not a kick or destiny related dc) I messaged him for 20 mins then he's like I dc'd and after these matches I'm Done with ToO till they nerf thorn. They do need to do something to Change the thorn I don't care what just do it(and yes I'm bad at pvp :D no need to get good it's a matter of balance)
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Plz nerf
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2 RespuestasWHEN will we get an exotic-free playlist?! It'll feel like a real game again.
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I just use a high impact scout rifle, most people using a thorn will either run away once you land 2 shots on them or die if they stick around any longer. But yes thorn does need a nerd as well as TLW damage drop off.
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6 RespuestasHoly -blam!-ing medal score
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I'm just worried when they nerf hand cannons for pvp they ruin my beautiful fb like they did with auto rifles... And I'm below avg in crucible IMO so I do need thorn too. Lol.
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Editado por 7123812: 6/28/2015 9:14:52 AMYea I won't lie its pretty op, I took out the whole team in trials while they were trying to get their heavy
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As a thorn user i agree the burn effect is too long. And the fact it stacks with warlocks ignite is no fun aswell. Regardless, i never rely on the burn for the kills, i would gladly fire 1-2 more shots to finish off my opponent. If they run behind Cover... Well... Not my problem. For me the thorn and red hand are the easiest hand cannons for me to kill with. The way they fire and handle just suit me. When going against a bunch of thorns i learnt to Strafe around and mess up their aim, or if ur really tired of em use a red death. The health regen will safe you ALOT
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PREACH! I read a lot of these posts. Now I am not the most skilled player, but it is very infuriating to go in with my 365 MIDA and laying 6 or 7 shots into a person who can just line up one or two thorn shots and get the kill. PvP is actually not a game of skill but a game of chance, seeing as how hand cannons seemingly rule the landscape
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1 RespuestaIm just tired of seeing nothing but hand cannons now because everything else is so much weaker. Raise auto rifles and scout rifles, make hand cannons shorter distance and less accurate. Seriously, i is not that hard. Pistols should not be snipers with the kick of a shotgun.
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1 RespuestaTL;DR. But..... Only thing about thorn. It's a good gun that just hasent been nerfed. It's been a good gun since day 1. The game was balanced back then. But all the whiners complained and Bungie caved In and nerfed basically everything but hand cannons. That's why people complain it's OP. It's not, it's just that everything else got nerfed and the game is unbalanced now.
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I don't care if people use thorn unless it's in regular crucible, when I want to have a fun time like going in with NLB there's always that one mug with thorn. Just to clarify, thorn is OP. Look at the statistics. While thorn has one of the lowest impacts of hand cannons the DoT makes it deal more damage than the hardest hitting hand cannons like timurs lash and considering that the TL has one of the lowest RoF of any hand cannons it is rare you will get a 2 headshot kill. Thorn is also good at almost all ranges. It only requires 3 body shots as well making it the easiest weapon to use because white weapons such as the red hand IX, they require 2 body shots and a headshot AND they have a lower RoF than thorn.
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Don't really care who uses thorn or not I use red death to be honest skill players wouldn't worry about running into a thorn not that I'm hating on anyone or anything....