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Hey Deej, how much of the House of Wolves content was not on disc at day 1?

Hey Deej, how much of the House of Wolves content was not on disc at day 1? I look forward to your response.
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    obviously kings watch, and terminus was there since i was inside kings watch on the beta and it was populated with ghosts and enemies, terminus also accessible with ghosts although they did redesign it a little bit in a patch, nevertheless clearly content that was held back. We really need brand new areas now.. bored of earth moon venus and mars, i want mercury, phobos, europa and saturn areas.

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  • Editado por Highlander13630: 5/21/2015 10:31:36 PM
    There is even a mission that introduces Oracle's and the jumping puzzle. That whole tutorial segment was clearly cut from the middle of the game and was supposed to be played BEFORE vault of glass. Not rammed down our throats as Payed DLC at a later date. If they were still working on the house of wolves DLC prior to launch they sod have covered there tracks and removed the Oracle tutorial etc. WHOLE DLC including the reef and numerous raids have been ready for a long time. So sad how this game has been butchered. Bungie realy should give refunds for DLC (they wont)

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    • Editado por Grzzldgamer: 5/21/2015 9:30:40 PM
      In the first reveal video, Deej actually states EVERYTHING was done prior to launch. However, they go on to say they had to rewrite the HOW to jive with the changed story line! Very surprised many didn't go nuts over those admissions. BTW, Bungie came back with a response prior to that, (para phrasing here) that regardless of the content (that is or isn't) on the disc, gamers paid, not for the game itself, but for the right to access & play the (portion) of the game Bungie "opened" up to us. (It is also in your user agreement!)

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      • House of Wolves is friggin' awesome dude I'm GLAD they spent a lot of time on it. I'm sure if it was released at launch it would've been bland or even worse off than the vanilla game.

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        • Editado por DjNormal: 5/21/2015 8:04:54 PM
          Let's see. I want to say this up front. Back in September, I said I'd eat my hat if we fought a giant captain specifically named "Ultra Captain" in King's Watch. It appears I did not need to eat my hat. So: New weapon models New weapon types New weapon and armor skins New enemies (skins and models) Polished King's Watch area Re-designed Terminus area Re-designed reef area / New social space New game modes New PVP event New PVP maps Connection recovery New bounties New lighting in old areas New class items New emblems New shaders New ships New gear upgrade system Reforging at gunsmith Bigger vault New voice acting New story missions New mission into the Vault of Glass A new cutscene Pretty much every thing we've asked for over the past 8 months. What was in the launch version of Destiny. King's Watch with some bad textures and weird lighting glitches. This area included some dregs and an Ultra Captain. The Terminus without the jumping puzzle. A bunch of gear for an unused faction called Union (which was reskinned). Varicks thinks you should feel baaaaaaaaad, for making this post. Edit: I will concede that the story missions were revamped, not brand new as the wolf hunt was in the game, but presumably much different or unfinished.

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          • 'Looks at the 8 GIGABYTE download from a week ago' You tell me

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            • DLC = (Disc locked content)

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              • Goddamn, is it really this stupid shit again. Maybe you people need to wake the -blam!- up and look at some facts here. Ever since the Xbox 360 and Ps3 came out, look at how damn fast people have been able to find things hidden in the games code. Look at all the level, weapons, characters, perks, abilities, and milliions of other in game assets they have been able to get to just by coding on modded consoles. Look at how fast it was found out on several games within the last 5 years that there was disc locked content (Resident Evil 6 for example). Seriously, because some of the map is fully developed (and in some cases not even finished), you called if -blam!-ing disc locked content. That isn't what it is. In that case every game has disk locked content because there are rooms that can never be accessed or are unfinished. Could you play the story missions or strikes associated with these areas? No. Is there any game play of either Prison of Elders or Crota's End before their perspective DLC's? No. Is there any of the gameplay of strikes or story missions? No. Is there any gameplay of the crucible maps? No. Hell until the update and what we saw in streams there wasn't even a thing as side arms. If you hate the game and really think that it's all Disc locked content then just leave. No one wants your ignorant ass here. And before some smart ass comes in here with the "Oh but they had the reef shown at E3" they even said it was just a prototype (unfinished once again) version of it that they used just for E3 in the first stream.

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                • I downloaded at least 12gbs of data over 2 weeks, I have no idea where people are getting this 12mbs from.

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                  • The Reef is seen in one of the early trailer,...same layout but no vendors as far as I can tell. It was already designed before it was "executed" into the game let alone considered for DLC. Look, they cut things, [b][i]A TON[/i][/b] of things. We all know it, and it wasn't a "this mechanic just doesn't fit type stuff" ,...Destiny was reorganized right before launch. It's painfully obvious I just want Bungie to acknowledge it. Can the community acknowledge that at least without smart remarks to the O.P.? We saw gaurdians standing in the outpost before the game even came out, [b][i]same exact layout.[/i][/b] Sorry for repeating that but it's true. Don't forget the Crow cutscene and who knows what else got tagged for removal unless it's paid dlc.

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                  • You'll be waiting a long, long time.

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                  • Considering it was like an 8 megabyte update.. I'm guessing it was just a code to unlock everything that was already there.

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                    • Editado por Kankunation: 5/21/2015 10:12:08 PM
                      It would be quicker to answer what was on the disc at launch. Placeholder areas for skywatch and the terminus A little bit of disabled code for things such as trials of osiris (incomplete versions) The models for house of wolves fallen and weapons. A couple of the dead ghosts (though not all linked to the same grimoire cards) Everything else was added in later.

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                      Even if it was all on the disc at Day 1, it saved you time in not downloading it.

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                      • The conspiracy nuts return

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                        • the House of Kings mission was in it day one

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                          • Yes, it's all a conspiracy and the evil corporate overlords fooled us once again, muhahahaha

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                          • Well there was no download time. And the previous update was only 900mb on Xbox....just saying

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                            • In my eyes what wasn't in disc... ToO looks revamped from previous videos. Completely different especially the armor. PoE completely new Some of the story missions....VOG, cinders, etc. New vendor gear, PoE gear New exotics , ships, emblems, shaders

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                              • You sir are an idiot

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                              • Editado por Trando: 5/21/2015 9:07:39 PM
                                [quote]Hey Deej, how much of the House of Wolves content was not on disc at day 1? I look forward to your response.[/quote] You will not get one. But judging how certain areas were glitched into, as well as the reef showing up in early promo material. As well as certain files being data mined as time goes on I'd say roughly 25% was available Day 1 and since TDB that number raises to about 35%-40%. I'm all for the locked content theory, but it's not disc locked content as the disk is essentially a key to download Destiny. Destiny data is stored server side on Bungie's end, not etched on a disk. This has been repeatedly confirmed by Bungie.

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                              • The reef was shown in gameplay in one of the launch trailers. The strike area and the King's Watch were accessible through glitching since the beta. Most of the other levels are just the same areas that we've grinded through for months, just from a different direction. There is only a small percentage of the content that is actually new. Even the most of the armor and guns have been in the game files.

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                                • You do know DeeJ didn't develop Destiny, right? lol

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                                • Try put this in either #community or #bungie

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                                • Do you remember the large update that you got before the expansion? That much

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                                  • How much of this post wasn't though about before posted? All of it.

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