[quote]The universe may have existed forever, according to a new model that applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein's theory of general relativity. The model may also account for dark matter and dark energy, resolving multiple problems at once.
The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a "Big Bang" did the universe officially begin.
Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after—not at or before—the singularity.
"The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there," Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org.
Ali and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, have shown in a paper published in Physics Letters B that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end.[/quote]Interesting stuff.
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1 RespuestaIf this is true, and let's say the whole universe has existed forever. Wouldn't that contest the part of the bible where God created it? [spoiler]let me reiterate the [b][i][u]IF[/u][/i][/b][/spoiler] [spoiler]also I apologize if this insults anyone, not meant to be w shot at religion, just a question.[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaThe great thing about science is it's willing to admit when it's wrong.
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55 RespuestasWell... While atheists and agnostics change what they believe a few times on origins, I'll just chill here and keep the same belief, no sweat.
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7 RespuestasI know this has nothing to do with topic, but people say that the bible isn't evidence and say it's flawed because it's human created, so I'm just wondering if we follow logic wouldn't science and math and everything we do be flawed to be human created? Not hating on anyone, I feel you have the right as a human being to believe on whatever you want. This is just something that came to mind
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1 RespuestaEditado por NIGHT LORD14: 2/11/2015 4:04:39 PM[quote]Ali and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, have shown in a paper published in Physics Letters B that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end.[/quote] No beginning and no end, huh? That just sounds like wishful thinking. The universe isn't some magic immortal thing, it exists in the same temporary state everything does. It's not exempt from entropy and it will end eventually. Every reality may be different, but they all have one thing in common: they're all finite.
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Another hypothesis, another set of things to solve. Well, on the bright side, now everyone can finally agree at how wrong the Big Bang Theory is. Now if all those brilliant scientists can finish trying to make up history and finally crunch the quantum numbers for us Engineers, we'd be able to start making new tech again. (Useless theoretical scientists....)
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2 RespuestasIt says "theory" for a reason
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Instead of the universe creating life, what if life created the universe to give it existence, to give it a purpose? It might sound crazy, but think about it...
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We'll never truly truly know what happened , we can only predict and make theories . Sucks I know
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1 RespuestaIt was never right to begin with
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1 RespuestaThe biggest revelation I've gotten from this thread is that I was an idiot for clearing out my mute list. I am not a smart man.
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2 RespuestasThis is science. Ever changing, never absolute. Some people don't understand this.
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The articles i have read, suggested merely that it wasnt the start, but then again,the theory never stated it was the start. I like the theory, that it started two simultaneous timelines that are flowing forward and backward into each other, therefore always existing.
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2 RespuestasIt really is. I mean no nerd would ever land a girl that hot.
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Would anyone happen to now if this particular model is based in a 3-dimensional sense or otherwise? I'd imagine that for it to address the singularity problem it would have to the the former, but I don't want to make assumptions. [spoiler]I would look it up, but I'm not in a good situation for that and I don't want to forget to.[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaWhat must be considered here is that existence is a rather odd condition when you think about it. There is no real [i]purpose[/i] do existence, nor does it allow for acausal occurrences which, on a fundamental level, [i]must[/i] be possible in at least one sense of the term lest we neglect the fact that the state of existence is a rather fragile one. All in all, while this is physically sound, it creates a myriad of philosophical problems which make it quite objectively unlikely.
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31 RespuestasSo we would be called stupid if we didn't believe in that, and now it's wrong Atheists need to apologize
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Newest theory is multiverse! Same way you get galaxies colliding destroying one another & making a new one. The theory is same just on universal lvl! :) but that can be no more dis/proved atm than the big hairy magic man in the sky can! ;)
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1 RespuestaI don't have time to explain why I don't have to to tell you how stupid you are
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BAZINGA
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1 RespuestaEditado por TheFreshBan: 2/11/2015 3:21:16 PMThis is a [b]theory[/b] and the Big Bang is a [b]theory[/b] the definition of a theory is a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. So this can't be proven and doesn't disprove Big Bang
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So why would anyone be a atheist know?
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ayy lmao [spoiler]Spoiler Alert - Click at your own risk[/spoiler]
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2 RespuestasKaley cuoco though. Damn.
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1 RespuestaDoesn't that shift us from having to explain an infinitely dense and small point of singularity to having to explain an infinitely old universe where things can happen, or at least exist without a cause? That's a whole big set of new questions raised by answering a few. Not that that's a bad thing, of course.
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4 RespuestasIn the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter). First verse in the bible written over 4000 years ago and it already states what everything in the universe is. Everything is either matter, space, or time.