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6/20/2011 6:55:30 PM
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I am a monument to all your sins
What did gravemind mean when he said that ?
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Because Humanity are the heirs to the Forerunners and that race's metaphorical son, they have essentially inherited the consequences of all the Forerunner have wrought. Cryptum and the new plot devices it introduced sheds a lot of light on some of the Gravemind's lines, I'd highly suggest picking up a copy of the book sometime.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] redikalus It may be one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in all my time gaming.[/quote] You should play some more games.
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It may be one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in all my time gaming.
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killing is a sin. the gravemind is made up of things that were killed. it is a monument of all of your sins
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dustin 6047 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brutal Subley The Forerunners chose the humans to inherit all that was once theirs. That's why human DNA activates when Covenant doesn't. They saw themselves in the humans, the potential to think and care for the bigger picture than the self. "I am a monument to all your sins', It reflects the fact that the Forerunners couldn't defeat the Flood. That their choice for killing themselves would also be passed onto the humans, possibly a never ending cycle of species fighting an endless battle against the Flood. It also shows that humans make the same or just as bad choices/mistakes/sins. (Some who don't do their actions for the whole but for the 1 instead.)[/quote] Mass Effect?[/quote] LOL.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brutal Subley The Forerunners chose the humans to inherit all that was once theirs. That's why human DNA activates when Covenant doesn't. They saw themselves in the humans, the potential to think and care for the bigger picture than the self. "I am a monument to all your sins', It reflects the fact that the Forerunners couldn't defeat the Flood. That their choice for killing themselves would also be passed onto the humans, possibly a never ending cycle of species fighting an endless battle against the Flood. It also shows that humans make the same or just as bad choices/mistakes/sins. (Some who don't do their actions for the whole but for the 1 instead.)[/quote] Mass Effect?
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The Forerunners chose the humans to inherit all that was once theirs. That's why human DNA activates when Covenant doesn't. They saw themselves in the humans, the potential to think and care for the bigger picture than the self. "I am a monument to all your sins', It reflects the fact that the Forerunners couldn't defeat the Flood. That their choice for killing themselves would also be passed onto the humans, possibly a never ending cycle of species fighting an endless battle against the Flood. It also shows that humans make the same or just as bad choices/mistakes/sins. (Some who don't do their actions for the whole but for the 1 instead.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpArTaNo9 It probably had to do with Master Chiefs ancestors, in that he is a descendent of a Forerunner.[/quote] People, please read Cryptum before posting in this forum.
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I believe it's a hint that the whole Halo story is a metaphor to the story of christianity. The Flood representing sin and the Gravemind representing Satan. There's a topic about this stuff under Top Forum Topics to the right called: Halo as a Christian Allegory.
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Humans aren't descendents of Forerunners. We don't know why their constructs and artifacts only work with "Human-touch". We may find out why in the new Halo trilogy or Ghosts of Oynx 2. For now, I'm guessing it was because they either changed it so Humanity could take up the mantle after the Foreunners imminent extinction, or the Forerunners had the same/similar kind of DNA which would imply either both being created by the Precursors or that Humanity and Forerunners grew up from a single race and then split for some odd, unknown reason. What that quote means is that, well I think means that the Flood/Gravemind stand and live even though the Master Chief and his ancestors fight him. I'm not sure if by ancestors he means Forerunner or Human though.
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Hmm, upon thinking about it. Is it possible that the Gravemind is talking about the failures of the Forerunner? They failed to stop the Flood and resorted to a mass genocide on a galactic scale to halt the progression. Sure they chose some species to save, but a lot were killed. An ultimate price to pay. The Gravemind is a monument to his sins because it's the only real thing left from that part of history. But I haven't read Cryptum yet. Apparently it talks about what this could be more.
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The chief 'peeled the potato' a few times too many, and, as a result, Jesus created the Gravemind to destroy him. The Gravemind was created because of Chief's sins, a monument, if you will.
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As the Flood infects, the Gravemind gains the personality and knowledge of those it infects. That includes mental patterns, like behaviors. He is literally a monument to all our sins
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I always thought that since he gained sentience by the combined knowlege and memories of both human and covenant, he knows of the history and therefore the sins of each race. Think of how many brutal wars the human race has been through in just the last three hundred years. He knows all of the sins humanity has committed, and being the combined knowlege of all those memories, he becomes a monument to those sins.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpArTaNo9 It probably had to do with Master Chiefs ancestors, in that he is a descendent of a Forerunner.[/quote] Not quite.
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i think its because Gravemind is the product of everything bad put together.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rider Luke Cortana said that...[/quote] I take it you never played Halo 2[/quote]
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It probably had to do with Master Chiefs ancestors, in that he is a descendent of a Forerunner.
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Perhaps he means that he exists in that capacity because the folly of ancient sentient races that failed to stop him?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rider Luke Cortana said that...[/quote] I take it you never played Halo 2
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Cortana said that...
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nvm [Edited on 06.20.2011 11:04 AM PDT]
