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1/11/2024 7:40:49 PM
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How did hive and cabal learn English?

Okay, I can understand the fallen and maybe the vex understanding the English language. The fallen lived with humanity for years and the vex can learn almost anything. But how in the heck are the cabal and hive fluent in English? Before Ghaul, Calus, and even Caital arrived on Earth they were fluent in English. The same goes for the hive, how the heck does Oryx know how to speak English when he has never set foot on Earth before? Is there some type of universal rosetta stone or something cause this don't make sense.
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  • We've been sending radio signals full of it into space for decades. How could they not?

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  • They got hooked on Psionics Older folk will get this.

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    • Universal translators. We are playing in a universe with inter dimensional travel, immortal zombies, space magic, all powerful beings, etc. Translation is the simplest thing going on lol.

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    • Translation tech/software. I could be wrong, but I do believe it has been mentioned or alluded to in lore on a few rare occasions. Also, keep in mind that the Cabal have conquered dozens or thousands of species, and their empire was compromised of many different creatures, so they had to know many languages. Plus, psion likely translated.

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    • I mean, maybe they don't know English and we just have universal translator technology...

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    • Hive my guess is surveillance, it’s possible Crota and the hidden swarm were on the moon before the collapse if you look at the lore, then Savathün had been manipulating things from the shadows since the collapse so she may have learned it overtime via monitoring the traveler and veil. I am not sure completely about Oryx but he was a voracious consumer of information so he could have just been hardwired for it. Cabal, I’m not really sure but maybe psions? Or research in golden age ruins on Mars?

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    • Because dweebs like you complained all of D1 about how the bosses didn't talk. Sad kids want to hear lame taunting during a fight. Now we have Nimbus. All the crying for dialogue and cutscenes has made D2 less fun.

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      • Edited by LoadNLock: 1/13/2024 11:26:35 PM
        I always thought it was just like Star Trek or some other "Universal Translator" type thing. That far into the future they've *gotta* have *some* kind of language tech. They don't necessarily need to speak English. Besides, if the Destiny universe is anything like ours then realistically, hundreds of years in the future (when this takes place), English would be incomprehensible to what we call English now, and might be heavily influenced by alien and other human other languages. For that matter, English might not even be there most common Human language any more. But then this is all just speculation, of course. Being an amateur student of linguistics and a polyglot, that's my take though. 😁 They point I'm trying to make is that, unless I'm mistaken, i don't think it explicitly says they speak English anywhere. But don't quote me. 😉

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      • its called "bungie doesn't want to invent multiple new languages"

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      • Duolingo?

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      • That green owl taught them.

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      • Sigourney Weaver taught them.

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        • It’s been several hundred years since the collapse and the arrival of our rival factions. Humanity has managed to assimilate languages throughout our history, so why couldn’t they? I’m more concerned about the physiology and how alike ours is to something that’s seemingly travelled millions of light years away.

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        • Universal Translators. That’s what many science-fiction shows/ movies do. [spoiler]This is meant as a sassy comment[/spoiler]

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          • Space magic

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          • Old episodes of Sesame street broadcasted from satellites.

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          • Duolingo. The same way I learned a 2nd language.

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          • Plot convenience

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            • Edited by Guardian, Archon Of Light: 1/12/2024 7:49:15 PM
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              Archon Priest Of House Light - old

              Notice only the higher ranking ascendent Hive know human languages, the lower ranking Hive communicate in there common tounge , which you can hear witches speak when you piss them off , Crota and all other knights just sort of grunt like a cow being branded at us , Nokris didn't speak to us untill after he was brought back by Savvy, who I bet knows a million languages The only thing that doesn't make sense is why in the early TTK cutscenes Ichtar and Oryx speak to each other in English with no humans present , but I think that's a "Our players are too dumb for subtitles" situation

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            • Hooked on phonics worked for them.

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              • I mean the cabal is an easy answer. The psions have very strong telekinetic powers and they can easily translate our language through our minds. Hive I guess u just throw it up to hive magic.

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              • I think at the least, I can understand some of the Cabal using English or whatever language you play Destiny 2 with. Humanity has apparently studied Cabal for a while learning about some of their history and legends. The Cabal have definitely done the same, at least with Ghaul, Calus and Caiatl. Psions could've also made the language easier for them to understand. For the Hive, through some of the lore, I think Savathun using the human language makes sense as well and maybe she taught Oryx it. But perhaps the Hive also have a special way to speak using space magic or something. It could make sense with The Witness in the same ways as well probably. There are odd cases that unless you use the reason "so players understand the context", lore-wise, they don't make sense. Ghaul's consul choosing to use the language doesn't really make sense. And like others have mentioned, Ichtar speaking to Oryx in Destiny 1 using the language is rather unexplained, unless that's space magic.

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              • They stick a Babelfish in their ear of course……

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              • They don't have enough silver to purchase emotes from the Eververse store, learning Emglish was cheaper.

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              • I would much prefer it if they communicated through dancing, crouching. gesturing and subtle head movements, like sophisticated Guardians.

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                It’s all going concording to plan 😂🤣 - old

                Maybe Ghosts translate the audio in real time.

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