Try vigilance wing or some other heavy pulse rifle

Back pedal. While spamming ar. My recommendation is you have to not be timid. Do not waste time for perfect shots. Be mobile. And keep playing. Generally just spamming and back peddling will be enough for unskilled apes just trying do what think pros play like. But all of us are screwed when good players know how to ape. Then the only defense is being a good player. But you learn what works over time. But I do know if you dont at least challenge the ape and stand there gawking trying to decide how to react you lose every time. Kep playing guarding my second statement above is probably the best advice I can give. Autos are in a good place so you can burn down aping guardians if your quick on the draw and back peddle.

Ypu have 3 options right now. Hc with shotty. Hc with adored. Hc with arby.

[quote]99.9% of the time i face shotgun/handgun combo hunters in PVP and since there is no SBMM i suck really bad and cant counter such meta tactics, im a auto rifle user, and a titan, can anyone please help me? p.s. all trolling comments will get reported i rather a mature player answer not the typical "get good" 5 year old kid answer![/quote] Can I just make a comment, and I do not mean it horribly. But you will never start to improve if you have the mindset of "I only suck because [insert generic excuse here]". Your chosen excuse, that you suck because there's no sbmm, is exactly that. An excuse. You need to look at what you're doing wrong in order to improve, if you're already blaming other external factors then you aren't gonna get any better. Additionally, you're also getting hung up on your opponents. Apparently 99.9% are hunters using HC/shotty. Don't exaggerate for effect, it's another excuse you're likely subconsciously hiding behind. Now, with that said. We can move on. The four stages to improving are: Unconscious incompetence. This is where you're making mistakes and you aren't even aware. Conscious incompetence. This is where you've realised you're making mistakes and you're very aware of them. This stage also often feels like you're getting worse because you're more aware of your mistakes so you notice them more often. The truth is you're making no more or less of the mistake, you just notice it more. Conscious competence. This is where you actively have to think about your mistake and tell yourself to not do certain things. You'll sometimes still make the mistake but you've more or less stopped. It's just a case of constantly reminding yourself. Unconscious competence. You've got to the point where you virtually never make the mistake again because it's become second nature. Right then. My suggestion is that you're very much struggling with movement, particularly up close. My advice, go into a private match with a friend and get a feel of the maps, examine them, get familiar with them, set little contests of who can close a gap fastest, see if there is something you are missing that other players are using as cover or platforms for their movement, use that radar of yours, start to recognise choke points and where would be very bad places to engage. Map awareness, and the understanding that destiny has a lot of verticality, are two key things to get a handle on. You can sit here and be told to use weapon x or weapon y and you may go have a game with them and it coincide with a poor lobby and you get 20 kills. But you haven't suddenly got better. There isn't a weapon in the game that you can give to a bad player and have them suddenly be good. They'd still be a bad player, they'd just be one who got some cheap/lucky kills.

You’re a titan dude you have a better class to do it with than the hunters. Just slide at them you move too fast with stasis titans.

The Last Word

I hear you, as a titan mane since D1 and lover of auto rifles, I’ve started using the halloween auto rifles, found they pack the biggest punch for auto rifles. I typically use a shotgun with an auto rifle. Suros with actium war rig on quick fire + scout rifle or shotgun. (That typically works, unless they use stasis🙄)

Your radar is your best friend If you see someone running up on you throw your barricade up and keep walking backwards until you’re out of hit range You also can throw a duskfield grenade to launch them back a little bit depending on where you throw it, or even shiver strike them if they a get a little too close for comfort

Radar. I used to be owned by shotguns. I got pissed off and went to Youtube for answers. The key for me was learning how to use my radar. They may get me at the start of the match. Once I know that I'm up against a shotgun. I pay attention more to my radar and adjust my play, to back off slightly so that I'm out of their range which in many cases puts them into my range. My game play is at it's best when I pay attention to my radar. Just go to Youtube and type Destiny 2 Radar that will help you counter shotgunners.

Start to learn routes people usually take and use positioning as a help. If you can't beat them with hand eye coordination you need to play some more mind games. Be the Obi Wan and take the high ground.

What AR are you using? If it's not a 600rpm with high cal you're shooting yourself in the foot using it in pvp. That said, even those ARs were quickly pulled back out of the meta, and you'll already have to be above average to win 1v1's with them. Best advice I could give is use your shotgun until you're out of ammo, then try baiting HC players out into the open, and pre-firing them while they think you're still running away.

Slug shotguns and 140s at close-mid range do the trick.

5+ resilience and play at range

All I can say is play the range watch your radar git gud

How to Counter a Shotgun Rusher... i have almost 90% of the Time Countered a Rusher by just jumping over them... Shotguns have a Lethal Range and Rusher only think in one Dimension at this Moment i Bamboozled so many Shotgun Apes by just Running at them and if he is nearly in Range for a Shot i just Jump over them and kill them from behind... most of the Time they don't know what happend and 120rpm HC.... Well... move with the Flow or use a Weapon with High Firerate and Highcal Rounds... the Flinch will make it hard for them to land good shots i hope this helps

I’ve found myself getting shut out by glacioclasm. It has a fast enough charge time for reactions, and if far out distances felwinters. As for HC idk. Crimson, steady hand, and last word pretty much shut out everything (on console at least).

The dawning fusion rifle is your friend, get to know it.

Auto rifles 1v1 in any meta is a tuff proposition. They are a support weapon in most cases and effective in 6v6 when combined with other teammates firepower, so stay close to others for max effect. As far as the combo you refer to countering, like most things in D you gotta fight fire with fire so I normally pack a crimson/shotgun combo myself with my Titan. I love using a Monte Carlo with my statis hunter build for melee energy and the damage buff is a beast on multi kills. Any auto rifle that does not have high caliber rounds is a waste of time in the crucible IMO. Keep your encounters at medium distance and anticipate targets by using the one advantage autos have...ammo. Start firing before you even see the target behind corners and cover to pin them down. Hope this helps!

Sidearms are good to counter apes. Stasis is useful too.

................. [spoiler] git gud [/spoiler]

I rev up my sweetbusiness and close the gap and spray them down...

Skilled players can evade them, trip them up, etc. And you can counter with again a shotgun but you can also counter with a sidearm. I have little issue with shotguners because of my strategy and you can pull away and kill them.