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2 RepliesPeople abuse the zen for anti-recoil and unfair advantages but still, it's not better than your pro controller which does the same thing. I use it to correct the number of faults in PC controllers. For destiny on PC, the way the controller acts is different enough to be an issue and I've tried using MnK but I'm not good with it. so I macro my controller so it's the same as on PlayStation. 1 because I need my controller to be on point like on my ps5 and 2 PlayStation is hard to get your PC to read my controller never identifies as a PlayStation on PC. Also if you complain about people using them then your 1 a loser who can't understand how it works and just wants to label it as cheating because you can't get it yourself. let's be honest if someone in a game can gain an advantage they are going to look at cod and how everybody just uses the same meta for a while it's the same in d2 are some of you really going to say you did not use stasis when it first came out in trials? you are just -blam!- lying if you are. The point is stop being a baby just because someone uses it doesn't mean they are good anyway my K/D in destiny is still at 1.4 so who -blam!- cares.
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2 RepliesI wonder if, when you buy one of these devices, you have to provide a doctor's note or a prescription to prove you don't have the balls to fight fair or if they just take your word for it.
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You guys can disagree with me or agree with me care either way I don't own one I can't even afford to buy one of these toys but I've done enough research to realize Xbox already offers the same thing that the Zen gives you. Just not as detailed as the Zen now what I mean is the two links below. You can purchase aftermarket controllers you can keybind different settings slash AKA mackerels. You can have a controller that has four extra buttons. Just like the eliminator. Some of these controllers even have software that you can program these controllers are sold from Microsoft Microsoft is the one hosting the games on their game platform xbox. You can also buy aftermarket controllers for PlayStation. If you ask me should we ban these people and forbid them no I don't think we should for the simple fact of if you're going to do that then you should band everybody who owns an elite controller or an after-market controller of any kind. And that's not going to happen because though controllers are sold by the company that's hosting your game. Do you think they're going to agree with allowing YouTube and players that's going to drop their sale. Because people are getting banned for using that controller. I don't think that's going to ever happen. Salt to all the people who are whining because they haven't afforded to buy one or they think it's unfair or they call it cheating or hacking or whatever they want to call it they just can't either a afford to buy one of those toys are controllers be can't figure out how to use one of those controllers Or c kill that they have the Integrity not to cheat because they think all those things are cheats even though that they're sold and used and purchased by many of people. I'm just going to leave it right there control me you can all make comments you can all call me insane you can all call me that I haven't done my research but I've read up on a lot of those controllers gone to the website and looked at the Zen end attachments you can buy from that company the only thing in there that catches my eye then I got told that I'm mistaken because pointed out a controller does the same thing it's reduced coil yeah you heard me reduce coil means when you fire your gun instead of it jerking up or down it reduces the amount that it jerks up or down now they do sell a controller on the Xbox Market that does the same thing so should we banned them for having software all put into one little nice little toy that has every feature that's offered by Microsoft that's offered by these people making controllers all-in-one little box and they call it a Cronus Zen know this person was ingenious enough to put all those features into one little thing and sell it to you so that way you didn't have to buy multiple different controllers I don't see what's wrong with it I'm sorry yeah unfair advantage well that unfair Advantage was paid for yeah it's unfair to a lot of people who cannot afford it or figure out how to use it but I've done enough reading to see that yeah they do have an unfair Advantage but just because they could afford to buy one and figure out how to use it doesn't mean we should help I can go on to box and purchase one of these neat fancy to $300 controllers and get the same effect have a nice day everybody https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/elite-wireless-controller https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/collections/xboxaccessories?&ef_id=Cj0KCQiA8ICOBhDmARIsAEGI6o1mrVx-o4mgWblP0q7WJqzATtXsmfB_TUXlm4wgucCVv3rdRtGtDTEaAp5MEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4249!3!507891846910!p!!g!!xbox%20elite%20controller&ef_id=Cj0KCQiA8ICOBhDmARIsAEGI6o1mrVx-o4mgWblP0q7WJqzATtXsmfB_TUXlm4wgucCVv3rdRtGtDTEaAp5MEALw_wcB:G:s&OCID=AID2200126_SEM_Cj0KCQiA8ICOBhDmARIsAEGI6o1mrVx-o4mgWblP0q7WJqzATtXsmfB_TUXlm4wgucCVv3rdRtGtDTEaAp5MEALw_wcB:G:s&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8ICOBhDmARIsAEGI6o1mrVx-o4mgWblP0q7WJqzATtXsmfB_TUXlm4wgucCVv3rdRtGtDTEaAp5MEALw_wcB
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1 ReplyWell the Zen is technically is against Bungie's, and many other company's ToS for 3rd Party Software. It does count towards that ToS, and is actually state wide banned in many games which can be law suited into court knowing a company like Cronus a company known to help make "Scuff controllers" would go as far to go against a state wide gaming law. So if or whenever Bungie or any other company can sue this company. Cronus will be punish for it, and maybe end up in bankruptcy because this took a lot of investment. With also players possibly be Ip banned for using such a product. This will also lower tournaments rates for any pro player since some "Pro players" Are now using Zen's and its banned from all competition.
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6 RepliesI say let people use it. I'd rather have a low K/D that I earned legitimately than a high K/D that I didn't. It's not like I ever commend people for a good game, or care about their stats, who won, who had the most kills. I mean, if you turn $100 into $1mn, get back to me. If you won a Crucible match or two, f*** off, no one cares. PvP stats are worthless unless you're a paid pro. Everybody who cheats and thinks it puts them on the same level is a fake.
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1 ReplyBungie needs to start sueing these cheat software companies like activision just did. They probably won't waste the money though because somebody might miss a happy meal from cutbacks.
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1 ReplyEdited by Kiro - 13: 8/31/2020 4:53:04 PMDestiny 2 is sadly in a place where this, XiM, aim bots, and poke attacks are all to common. When every other game(or more pending on your skill bracket according to bungie) of just quick play casual matches contain at least one of these users it should be the canary in the coal mine for Bungie. I think though the mine stop being that some time ago and turned into a mass grave the national audubon society would be horrified by. I did the glory grind to 5500 3 or 4 season back double primary only(Scout & HC). After trials went live and destiny became f2p well its no longer remotely possible. Just by adding a pay wall they can exponentially reduce "bad actors".
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3 RepliesIm not sure if i understand it but cronus zen players can use different types of controllers on different devices. I dont see whats the big deal not ganna lie. Of course i dont fully understand it so if someone can help me understand it that would help
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38 RepliesModded controllers should be against TOS for all games.
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2 RepliesBungie ain’t doing nothing about the zen hahaha. Because they cannot. This whole game is rotting to the core with cheaters.
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23 RepliesEdited by Twist Ledgendz: 8/31/2020 2:05:38 PMModded controllers and Chronos both violate bungies Terms and conditions as well as xbox... If you are using these, it's only a matter of time before you get banned and you inevitably start moaning in the forums. Also... There are people defending this. Yeah. Just let that sink in.
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1 ReplyPeople who cheat in anything are always losers
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14 RepliesI want to know who it is that plays destiny and says... hmmm, I think I could use more auto aim.
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4 RepliesI got killed right after spawn to A at Midtown from Summoner user at heavy ammo bridge.. In about optimal TTK it has. This has gotten worse all the time at least on PS4, you can clearly see who uses it when the ranges are like that. Harder to tell most of the time since maps are rather small.
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[quote]Do it now ! Unfair advantage The AA is significant ennough to create a unfair advantage[/quote] Start with this winner!
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7 RepliesThis is not on Bungie. It comes down to the console owners. They are who need to work on a system to detect and ban for these.
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People aren’t really keyboarding on destiny on console since MnK on 30 frames feels like shit. Now something like R6 siege, CoD, Overwatch, etc. may or may not have people keyboarding at higher levels of play.
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This would be an awesome viral marketing campaign by Cronus haha. Sounds like you did some good free advertising and some people in this thread are now interested in buying one. Nice job... LMAO....
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4 RepliesI noticed lots of streamers (in CoD at least) hide their controller set ups now. Can’t ever see their hands or console. 🧐
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3 RepliesHow are they going to ban them when Bungie can't even ban the cheaters on pc. They have no clue how to stop this. Sad stuff
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Agree 100%. Wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of streamers were using this
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4 RepliesThere is no way that Bungie can ban USB devices like Cronus and Titan. At least not for the good players who are using them correctly and not going overboard with. Just using their scripts to gain just enough of an advantage to have plausible deniability but still get what every cheater wants, either recognition or money. There is no way for devs to detect them and these things existing is why if you’re smart you should never trust any crazy accomplishments you see in online gaming or streaming. As long as the ass actual system playing the game is hidden it could always have one of these devices plugged in (even if they display it on stream it could always be a dummy with the real one off frame). As long as there has been something to win in a competition or some way to get famous there has always been people willing to cheat to get there and the easier it is to do it or when it isnt punished then the more people will do so to get ahead. I mean it would be a safe bet to say that there are less streamers/youtubers that dont use something like this than do. Im not saying they all do but the majority do because there is nooo way they are all the elite gamers they come across as (even with accounting for editing). Just know that for every cheating streamer that is caught or round of bans that is only the tip of the iceberg. After all a majority of console players think cheating doesnt even exist on console.
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15 RepliesSorry just asking, how is it cheating? The no recoil? Is there aim bot involved? If not I can’t see an issue. PC has no recoil.
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14 RepliesWhat is it? I’m getting one.
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17 RepliesThe only people who disagree with this are those that cheat.
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It's sad it comes to this. Especially because some people really only use this device because they prefer one consoles controller but the other consoles playerbase/UI/"exclusives" more.
