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5/17/2020 1:50:18 PM
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The Truth About Power Creep
It appears Bungie needs some real talk about power creep and why we are so willing to grind for weapons in the first place.
It’s because we WANT to be powerful. We put time and effort into these hapless grinds because we want to run a raid the second time and reap the rewards of that. We chase after Windigo, Mountaintop, Recluse because we WANT that advantage. That’s what actually makes the grind worthwhile.
Bungie have been notorious for taking that feeling of power and advantage away from its players, and have been doing so with seasonal nerfs every time a weapon drops. The trade off for having overpowered weapons is those excessive grinds.
When you start merging and sun setting that gear you are making those grinds pointless. It’s amazing that the Dev team don’t understand this. It’s the fundamental reason why people play Destiny.
If you’re trying to balance the game, focus your energy on trials and pvp cheating - whatever power creep you THINK is in this game is nothing compared to how easy it is to spam and cheat pvp right now.
If you want your community to be engaged in new content then find creative ways to make them feel more powerful.
For example, create a unique perk that is unique to that season so any weapon that drops has it. That immediately makes an
Old weapon new again without robbing my tower. You did this great with Raid gear in D1 where Taken King Raid gear had its own unique perks. Even if the weapon was weak, having that perk made it worthwhile.
Stop taking our power away.
Stop taking our incentive away to play your amazing game.
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You can't be powerful and have PvP at the same time. Why do you think bungie are in this constant cycle of buffing/nerfing stuff. PvP will always hold the PvE portion of the game back, they just need to completely separate the modes and be done with it.
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1 ReplyTotally agree, I remember back in D1 being able to load up old story missions and just be ridiculously overpowered, the regular versions at the original power levels, but there were also higher levelled versions too. I miss being able to feel powerful like that, but ever since the domination of certain supers caused them to make flawed design choices in Reckoning they've been terrified of power creep. But the problem was never legendary weapons/armour as they claim, it was exotics and supers, along with the way multiple buffs/debuffs could be stacked making encounters ridiculously easy. Bungie have nerfed the supers and the exotics, along with removing the ability to stack buffs against bosses, their "power creep" excuse is total bs from the start. Besides anything powerful enough to warrant sunsetting would be nerfed far before the natural sunset occurs.
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1 ReplyEdited by Yves: 5/18/2020 4:09:06 PMI’ve killed multiple alien gods. I’ve killed mindless zombie like ghosts controlled by alien gods. I’ve killed time traveling multidimensional cyborgs. I’ve killed scavengers of universe. The emperor of the greatest empire of this galaxy is my friend and keep giving me fancy guns and gears. Now I’m even struggling with killing a champion by myself if several ads are with him. And bungie believes I’m too powerful due to “power creep”. wHaT tHe HeLL iS wRoNg WiTh yOu bUnGo?
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1 ReplyThis game doesn’t even have power creep, the true power creep comes from special weapons that one shot. Primary weapons are most (not all) in a really good spot to tell you the truth. Even primary weapons that actually broke the game like hard light, recluse lunas howl etc. these weapons are still very much viable and their ttk is perfect. Recluse can still perform really well if the player has the skill to land crits and have decent positioning. These weapons were nerfed to a balanced state where they still gave their power fantasy and everyone is happy so where is the power creep?
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1 ReplyBungie never mentioned about "power creep" issues until Datto mentioned it in one of his videos...therefore, Destiny 2 is in the state of the "Datto Effect".
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4 RepliesEdited by SherpaDerpa: 5/18/2020 7:38:28 PMEveryone conveniently forgets Reckoning. We were so powerful at one point that literally the ONLY way to kill us in an encounter were one hit kill abilities in bosses and pushing us off the map...... Power creep is real and it’s a problem. Not to mention people literally one cycling bosses on day 1 of the raid being out.
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1 ReplyPeople need to stop using the phrase “Power fantasy”. No. You don’t get to decide that. Destiny is a game-as-service, and thus will NEVER have power fantasy.
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2 RepliesPower creep is a lie
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17 RepliesThey’re not making your grind pointless. You still have everything you grinder and can use it in about 3/4ths of the game. This change only effects endgame pve and pvp. I have every single pinnacle in the game and I’ll be using revoker for pvp sniper kills or recluse for gambit smg kills. We just can’t use it in end game. Which is fine because they’re been used in the end game for nearly a year. I’m sitting on 50k kills with my recluse and like 20k on my mountaintop. There’s plenty of “alternatives” but nothing definitively better so why switch? Making “unique” perks won’t worm and they proved it in the best way possible. They added back an elemental kinetic weapon that people had begged for since D1 ended, and no one uses it because it’s not definitively better Cheating is only an issue on pc, which is the smallest section of the community, roughly 10% of daily active players.
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Waiting until you get into a car accident to buy insurance would be kinda dumb
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5 Replies[i]You[/i] want to be overpowered, not we. Look back at the infinite supers days. Players were nigh unkillable, and we just melted everything. If you want to feel that powerful, start up a creative mode Minecraft world.
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14 Replies"It’s because we WANT to be powerful" This right here. Not a lack of power fantasy, but a power fantasy.
