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Edited by MrAhmerGamer:
2/1/2019 2:21:18 PM
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Bungie, why are hand cannons so much worse on console?
I’m a PS4 player. Hand cannons on console are not great. I realize PC players have different perimeters, but hand cannons were excellent in D1. Please fix. This is crazy.
PC players saying TLW is amazing. Console players, it’s ok. That shouldn’t be! Wake up, Bungie!
Edit: Yes, looking at stats, HCs kill more guardians. And I can only go off of content creators. But the main point remains, hand cannons seem to be a different beast on PC. More crisp. More rewarding. As someone stuck on a console, that’s frustrating.
Edit 2: True Vanguard has a great new video out that sums up my thoughts and validates my post. Check it out: https://youtu.be/iJ62F5CV4Dk
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Because console masterrace. We can hit shots WITH recoil.
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6 RepliesEdited by Dano2point0: 2/1/2019 3:14:14 PMWhy do people waste so much time and energy comparing PC and console? If you want a zero recoil experience, go buy D2 on PC. Or better yet, spend less time complaining for things to be easier and learn to manage the recoil on your own. The whining on this forum is -blam!-ing non-stop.
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2 RepliesHave you tried the Malfeasance? As for the rest you have to pace your shots, let the gun settle between firings.
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Because Deej is horrible with them.
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11 RepliesAren't we in a hand canon meta currently?
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10 RepliesEdited by DarkOverlord_9: 1/30/2019 11:13:54 PMIt’s bloom. Bungie knows no one likes it, but they don’t care. They’d rather keep watching their player base dwindling away. Smart business move.
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Playing some Anthem tomorrow.. game is silky smooth.
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Cos mouse and keyboard
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[quote]I realize PC players have different perimeters[/quote] Then this issue should have been over, the moment you realized this. PC has always been more accurate than console because of their perimeters. D2 Handcannons have upgrades and more armor perks, to improve them rather than just giving players the accuracy they crave (excluding God rolls, exotics, and pinnacle weapons).
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2 RepliesRecoil is the same. How it is perceived thou is a diffrent animal due to low resolution and poor (30) fps. Then again, you guys can aim at the stars and still get crit shots 😂. Anyway, have a nice day 👍🏻
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I think the most frustrating part is the fact that bungie will not acknowledge the difference with hand cannons on PC and console. This is a well known issue that has been brought to there attention since the birth of d2, and they refuse to address it or atleast explain why it can't be addressed on console. Instead they completely act as if there is no problem with the recoil pattern. Also for 140 and 150 rpm hand cannons to compete in this current meta, bloom should be significantly reduced or eliminated completely.
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To all the people saying “herp derp it’s just easier to aim with a mouse than with joysticks,” look up recoils comparisons between console and PC. Without controlling for recoil whatsoever, PC recoil is a [i]fraction[/i] of console recoil.
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Edited by Shrike22498: 1/31/2019 6:54:07 PMDrewsky does a comparison of controller vs pc stability on D2 and Vs D1. It's very enlightening https://youtu.be/wTFcPzKacfg Here is a video of huckleberry recoil pc vs controller. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vDo5_TR8jkM This is my favourite if the last word on controller and mouse. Absurd how bad controller is. https://youtu.be/S-0B0BnNI6o
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Aim assist
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The only good hc are 180 rpm they need to buff the accuracies and stability for 140,150 and 110
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Bloom is an awful mechanic to apply to anything other than hipfire. They were great fun to use in D1 before Bloom got added. A skilled hand should be rewarded, not artificially hampered.
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6 RepliesBungie wanted to give better versions of weapons to the PC build, because they know all the steamers use that platform. Don't believe me? Look at any Scourge raid video and tell me ONE pulse that can crit it's entire 4-burst on a vandal from 150+ meters away on console.
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https://youtu.be/9ZMvfdPxFAE Watch this it will help you.
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1 Reply[quote]I’m a PS4 player. Hand cannons on console are not great. I realize PC players have different perimeters, but hand cannons were excellent in D1. Please fix. This is crazy. PC players saying TLW is amazing. Console players, it’s ok. That shouldn’t be! Wake up, Bungie! Edit: Yes, looking at stats, HCs kill more guardians. And I can only go off of content creators. But the main point remains, hand cannons seem to be a different beast on PC. More crisp. More rewarding. As someone stuck on a console, that’s frustrating.[/quote] I rock the Ikelos HC on PC and PS4 Pro and it's awesome..
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Edited by reenry: 2/1/2019 2:25:03 AMIt isn’t exclusive to Destiny by the way. Im fine with Handcannons because its more recoil control, I can land a 3 headshot with a 140 fine, but I understand where you are coming from. I haven’t seen much difference in TLW recoil from D1 to D2 because I can control recoil. But PC can do this a lot better because its more point and shoot while the mouse remains are accurate. Analog sticks are not as good for recoil control as a mouse is, and this can go for any game. I would say if you own a game with a custom game or something to warm up on (R6 Terrorist Hunt, or COD custom games) disable aim assist. This will improve aim, pin point aim, and recoil control. I wouldnt say disable aim assist in a real match because Destiny relies so much on the aim assist factor to keep gun fights fair and consistent, but it will help your aim. There are many great PvP players who demolish people in Crucible with a controller. I have seen players demolish people in R6 pro league with a controller. Just play and you will improve. Sometimes KB&M is just preference and not just superior.
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you do know handcannons got As much range as pulse rifles basically zero recoul and kill in like half a second right? i guess they need a buff on console
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Why doesn't bungie comment about this? They have commented on every other subject, but not this. Why?
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3 RepliesFor shooting and aiming PC's are just easier using a mouse and key bindings. Sitting hunched over a desk with a monitor 12 inches in front of my face, no thanks. By the way, there are quite a few very good PVP content creators that still use consoles.
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Weapons like LH/NF or Dire Promise are really easy to use on console. But those guns compared to Midnight Coop in Crucible is ridiculous. The bloom on Midnight in crucible is HORRIBLE. Besides perks, there are other reasons why some handcannons aren't used
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Bloom.
