Strictly for PvE terms. For all the new weapons in forsaken, only one hand cannon can roll with a outlaw rampage/kill clip. Nation of beasts. I want to grind for yr 2 weapons but to be honest, i find no incentive when there is the midnight coup, ikelos shotty and whisper. First thing i did at 600 was buy one of these for each character and that's all i use. Occasionally i check out a god roll for half an hour then go back. Many other archetypes have very nice rolls obtainable from random drops but not hand cannons. I am excluding the PvP endgame weapons as they are not ideal for PvE. Do any of you find another archetype missing good god role combos?
Edit- BD, Duke and trust have been mentioned to have these perks. The duke fires very slowly is what i would say to it. 110 hcs are a pretty poor subclass unfortunately, like high impact scouts. BD is excellent but as someone who can't stand crucible, grinding tokens for an rng drop would kill me:( Trust is likewise is tied to gambit and suffers a similar problem. 180HCs are also a pretty poor archetype- though better than 110s.
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4 RepliesMC is by far the best hand cannon in the game for PVE. It is not the best in many of the different categories that you compare it by, but when you combine all of those categories together it is by far the best. Its overall damage is not as high as better Devil's or the Duke, but it is high enough. More damage is not necessarily better It's range is not as much as Ace of Spades, but it's enough. When you combine all of the things together you get the very best hand Cannon for add clearing. It's lightweight, it's not energy, it's insanely accurate, it fires faster than any of the other contenders, it's not exotic. Those qualifications disqualify Ace of Spades, nation of beasts, better devils, and the Duke. On top of that Ace of Spades has no master work yet. I will admit that when Ace of Spades has its catalyst, I will take another look at it.
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3 RepliesMy Duke with Outlaw Rampage with 24k kills on it is better than the midnight coup. If you have precision Duke is better. If your trash you spam the Midnight Coup.
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Since I've never gotten it I wouldn't know the joy of using it lol. However I do have a Trust with Outlaw and Explosive Rounds. It's the best handcannon I've ever used.
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16 RepliesI'm not sure if you're leaving Ace of Spades out bc it's exotic, but AoS is the best hand cannon ever in destiny existence.
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5 RepliesGot a nation of beasts drop with outlaw rampage masterworked for reload. Had so much fun this week in arc heroic activities and strikes. Gotta say a 140 is a lot better than a 150 with o/r perks. Just a shame no 140 in kinetic slot can roll the combo and only duke can but it’s a 110. If better Devils could roll o/r it’d be dominant over coup..... imo
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I agree midnight coup is bae I have 20,000 kills and counting with it
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I mean....definitely one of the best.
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Malfeasance. Nuff said
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2 RepliesI've got Outlaw, Rampage, High Cal and Sureshot on my Duke.
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1 ReplyOMG all your toons have the same loadout, how boring and dull! lol Hahaha!!
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2 RepliesIt terms of damage etc. yes MC is good. But I hate it's cap gun firing sound and the fact you can pole vault with it. Snagged a Devils with Outlaw and Kill clip with stabs MW so I switched to that and MW'd it. I like the look and feel of Devils so I'll take it.
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6 RepliesDid you just say 180 hand cannons are a poor arch type?
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Midnight coup was good. It has been surpassed.
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My Duke with outlaw, rampage, masterworked for range, and a 13 shot magazine feels infinitely superior to midnight coup.
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3 Repliesfor PVE best weapion is ACE OF SPADE Becuz: 1: if u kill target and reload i get increased damage 2: headshots deal massive AOE DAMAJE ( i got 27.000 damage on the mobs outside dreaming palace city)
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15 RepliesEdited by darkfool7: 10/30/2018 4:20:46 PMWhy ppl overpraise that midnight coup is beyond me, nowadays a lot of handcannons outgun it, and OP, the duke can roll rampage and outlaw..... and guess what, isnt even the best roll, theres rapid hit now, a new perk that does exactly what outlaw does without needing to kill
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11 RepliesNot Forgotten is the best there is! Unless you got one, you have no idea what you talking about :)
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I’ve got a ten paces with drop mag rampage and QuickDraw I use it with fighting lion and it is pretty amazing
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lolwut Malfeasance is way better than that midnight coup
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4 RepliesNothing beats Sunshot for pve. Not Midnight Coup. Not Duke. Not Trust.
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2 RepliesI prefer Nation of Beasts over Midnight Coup any day
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1 ReplyCurated nation of beast is so much better
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7 RepliesI love my Wardens Law with snap shot and 11 in the mag... I’m a 110 hand cannon type of guy. #BringBackFirstCurse
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3 RepliesThe Duke can roll with Rampage/kill clip outlaw
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I dont know if i agree with this. Personal preference really. Just like pvp weapons. When somethings op its op, but 99% of the time its just that the player is good with that thing.
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1 ReplyEdited by forkix385: 10/30/2018 1:49:26 PMDuke with rangefinder and rampage on my warlock wearing Ophidian Aspect. Who needs outlaw?