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9/16/2010 7:57:48 AM
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Question about Noble 6, Master Chief and Cortana. *CONTAINS SPOILERS*

Ok, so in the campaign for Reach, Noble 6 is chosen by Cortana, obviously she wanted him to be the spartan that she was with at all times (Not just to transport her, he was supposed to get on the pelican back to the Pillar of Autumn but decided to stay behind instead) Then immediately after the end of Reach, it shows the beginning cutscene of Halo:CE and Noble 6's death. From this we can deduce a few things, 1) Noble 6 isn't Master Chief 2) Master Cheif is in the cryo bay in the Pillar of Autumn when Noble 6 transports Cortana 3) Master Chief isn't Cortana's first spartan partner. Moving right along, In Halo 3 in the beginning of the campaign Cortana says "You know they let me choose any spartan I wanted, I chose you cause you had something the others didn't, Luck". Now that's all fine and dandy but she didn't choose Master Chief according to Reach, she chose Noble 6, seeing as how Noble 6 didn't get on Pillar of Autumn and Master Chief just so happened to be there (by sheer coincidence) and Master Chief being the only Spartan on Pillar of Autumn she had no choice but to be his partner AI. Which means she DIDN'T choose Master Chief, she chose Noble 6, he died and Master Chief just happened to be the left over option. So my question is why is the storyline so messed up all of a sudden? (I find the way chief and cortana met up and who cortana works with to be a huge factor in the storyline and progression of the game.) So why is the storyline so mixed up and out of it's own official loop?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flash2k7 That wasn't all of Cortana and she did choose MC to take with her off Reach. She choose Noble 6 to get to the PoA safely from Halsey's lab. Plus, Noble 6's armor couldn't carrier her like MC's hence he has the data thing attached to his back.[/quote] They both carry the Mark V...

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  • That wasn't all of Cortana and she did choose MC to take with her off Reach. She choose Noble 6 to get to the PoA safely from Halsey's lab. Plus, Noble 6's armor couldn't carrier her like MC's hence he has the data thing attached to his back. [Edited on 09.16.2010 3:43 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xCYPRESSBLAZEx actually nobel 3 died he was stabbed in the back by an elite energy sword it doesnt show him die because he was to busy killing and went out of view. but you can tell he woud die by that kind of body damage [/quote] Going by That theory, they dont show him getting killed either...so its irrelevant and open to interpretation, and going on Topic, Halsey's Journal states that Only two spartans have a superb combat record, one she says openly is Noble Six, the other well...its pretty darn obvious so Cortana could have had two choices, lets not forget the original mission was to assault a covenant ship and take one of the Covenant leaders hostages so they could bargain a treaty with them, and the Assault actually called for a The entire Spartan II squad to be assisted alongside ODST's and specially traied marines, its possible that Noble Team along With Echo Gamma and the other teams that Jun mentions where also supposed to take place, the covenant invasion destroyed this plan and obviously assets had to be re-purposed to other missions such as Noble team assisting in the Carrier Strike, and other teams being assembled as Evac Escorts, as well as the S2s being assigned to defend or demolish buildings that fell into covenant hands (Castle Base, The MAC generators, etc etc). In conclusion is PLAUSIBLE that Cortana and Halsey actually expected both Noble Six and Master Chief to partake in the mission and should either one fail the other one was available, now Six, decided to sacrifice himself to buy Keyes more time, maybe he was hoping Jun would miraculously assist him out of nowhere, or maybe he just was plain old Spartan pride to not live while the rest of his team died.... you gotta admit Jorge's dead was pretty stupid...

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  • ^ what they all said. If you listen to the cutscene Halsey tells 6 that you have to get this to the Autumn not 'She chose you to fight with her' Hence your objective was give Keyes Cortana not dust off in the Autumn, you were still in Noble Team and at that time there was still a Noble team you couldn't just abandon your team and say 'see ya guys she wants me to go with her have fun defending the planet!'

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  • actually nobel 3 died he was stabbed in the back by an elite energy sword it doesnt show him die because he was to busy killing and went out of view. but you can tell he woud die by that kind of body damage

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hysterical Joker [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] firestorm02 Ok, so in the campaign for Reach, Noble 6 is chosen by Cortana, obviously she wanted him to be the spartan that she was with at all times (Not just to transport her, he was supposed to get on the pelican back to the Pillar of Autumn but decided to stay behind instead) Then immediately after the end of Reach, it shows the beginning cutscene of Halo:CE and Noble 6's death. From this we can deduce a few things, 1) Noble 6 isn't Master Chief 2) Master Cheif is in the cryo bay in the Pillar of Autumn when Noble 6 transports Cortana 3) Master Chief isn't Cortana's first spartan partner. Moving right along, In Halo 3 in the beginning of the campaign Cortana says "You know they let me choose any spartan I wanted, I chose you cause you had something the others didn't, Luck". Now that's all fine and dandy but she didn't choose Master Chief according to Reach, she chose Noble 6, seeing as how Noble 6 didn't get on Pillar of Autumn and Master Chief just so happened to be there (by sheer coincidence) and Master Chief being the only Spartan on Pillar of Autumn she had no choice but to be his partner AI. Which means she DIDN'T choose Master Chief, she chose Noble 6, he died and Master Chief just happened to be the left over option. So my question is why is the storyline so messed up all of a sudden? (I find the way chief and cortana met up and who cortana works with to be a huge factor in the storyline and progression of the game.) So why is the storyline so mixed up and out of it's own official loop?[/quote] You're jumping to conclusions. Cortana chose Noble 6(and if you read Halsey's journal that is a single of two fragments of Cortana) to transport her safely to the Autumn. Noble 6 is asked to board the Pelican because the Covenant are swarming over the place and he would die otherwise. Noble 6 makes the decision to buy the Autumn time to escape, declining the offer to live. I can see how you'd make the connection, but you're making a little bit of a leap assuming that Cortana wanted a Spartan-III(Which Halsey wasn't aware of them being actual Spartans, Cortana was choosing a Spartan-II which Halsey and Cortana were aware of.)[/quote] Ah, is that how it actually was? I don't have the limited edition so I don't have the journal but if that's what it says then I guess that's true. The conversation with Keyes made it seem the opposite though because Noble 3(?) was still alive on the Mac cannon and I doubt Keyes is the kinda guy to save one spartan and let another one die, and I'm sure he would know Spartans have their pride and wouldn't ask Noble 6 to leave 3 there already knowing how they feel about losing everyone else unless there was a good reason like having been chosen by a super AI

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] firestorm02 Ok, so in the campaign for Reach, Noble 6 is chosen by Cortana, obviously she wanted him to be the spartan that she was with at all times (Not just to transport her, he was supposed to get on the pelican back to the Pillar of Autumn but decided to stay behind instead) Then immediately after the end of Reach, it shows the beginning cutscene of Halo:CE and Noble 6's death. From this we can deduce a few things, 1) Noble 6 isn't Master Chief 2) Master Cheif is in the cryo bay in the Pillar of Autumn when Noble 6 transports Cortana 3) Master Chief isn't Cortana's first spartan partner. Moving right along, In Halo 3 in the beginning of the campaign Cortana says "You know they let me choose any spartan I wanted, I chose you cause you had something the others didn't, Luck". Now that's all fine and dandy but she didn't choose Master Chief according to Reach, she chose Noble 6, seeing as how Noble 6 didn't get on Pillar of Autumn and Master Chief just so happened to be there (by sheer coincidence) and Master Chief being the only Spartan on Pillar of Autumn she had no choice but to be his partner AI. Which means she DIDN'T choose Master Chief, she chose Noble 6, he died and Master Chief just happened to be the left over option. So my question is why is the storyline so messed up all of a sudden? (I find the way chief and cortana met up and who cortana works with to be a huge factor in the storyline and progression of the game.) So why is the storyline so mixed up and out of it's own official loop?[/quote] You're jumping to conclusions. Cortana chose Noble 6(and if you read Halsey's journal that is a single of two fragments of Cortana) to transport her safely to the Autumn. Noble 6 is asked to board the Pelican because the Covenant are swarming over the place and he would die otherwise. Noble 6 makes the decision to buy the Autumn time to escape, declining the offer to live. I can see how you'd make the connection, but you're making a little bit of a leap assuming that Cortana wanted a Spartan-III(Which Halsey wasn't aware of them being actual Spartans, Cortana was choosing a Spartan-II which Halsey and Cortana were aware of.)

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  • Nah, If you actually pay attention to what Keyes says to Noble 6 he tells him to hurry up and get on she chose you (or something along those lines) If she didn't chose him to stay with her forever he would've just stayed there with the other spartan (Noble 3 i think?) and Keyes wouldn't have bothered to tell him to get on the pelican.

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  • chief is in the pillar when six is transporting her most likely she chooses six to be a transporter to get to to her real choose after all chief is the top spartan next to six.

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  • I played the game, haven't beat it. But from a friend that works at 343 and beat it. He says that Cortana didn't pick N6 to be her partner forever. She picked him JUST for the transport. So.. idk if this helps.

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  • Cortana only picked 6 to transport her, not be be her partner.

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  • RetCon, my friend. It's also VERY confusing when you compare it to the book: "Fall of Reach" This game is inconsistent with the book, and Halo 3. It may or may not be canon, actually. [Edited on 09.16.2010 12:00 AM PDT]

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