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Edited by Unosnow: 9/23/2017 7:35:19 AM
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Bungie plz end PAY TO CARRY

Take action on pay to carry, especially log ins.

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Leave it, ill only make it to LL if i paypal there

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This is complete and utter bullshit. Bungie please ban these pay to carry players. Trials only happens on the weekend and honestly having to go up against constant sherpa teams which your 100% guaranteed to run into at least once every 7 games is just silly af at this point and its blatantly obvious. I know people legit get carried just fine to lighthouse but this pay to log in crap or pay to carry is against the end user license agreement, and in violations of PSN terms of service, plain and simple. I think @bungie should worry more about this shit than KEK gauntlets or w/e the -blam!- that was.
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  • Let's unborrow this scourges before the light of truth. PSN & Bungie are not helping. It's time to act right now.

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  • Agree

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  • Bungie should have banned each and every single person attempting to make money from their game through Trials carries. The fact that they haven't sets an ugly precedent for "competitive" gaming and the ability to buy-in to win. Should have banned the people attempting to buy their way to victory, too.

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    • One flawless per week per character then you’re locked out of trials. Other than that, you can’t really do much if a pay to carry logs in to someone else’s account. But I agree with you, something needs to be and the fact that this has been a problem for a while and they did nothing about it in D2 says bungie doesn’t see this as a problem at all. Basically encouraging the method. Sad

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    • Edited by Cool-Caution: 9/25/2017 10:21:48 AM
      bungie should make it if you go flawless 1 you are then in a group of flawless people that have gone 1-3 times. Then have groups of flawless with there own ranks, E.G 1-3, 4-7, 8-11, 12-15 and so on (or cap it at 15) So if you in a team where a guy has been flawless 1 you are then put in the flawless 1-3 group, This mean all the people that have not been flawless play with other people that have not been flawless, so the poeple that carry people will find it harder and harder as they are matched with people in the same group as them and not new people, Edit. Yes i know they can make a new account but they would have to play the game again for a good couple of hours to unlock ToO I was playing ToO i have been flawless 1s in my life in D2 (never in D1). played again this weekend and put agent a team where 2 has been flawless 15 times, 1 had been flawless 8 and 1 that been flawless 5, think we did not even get a kill in.

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      • It's impossible to stop cause it can't really be proved. Even if someone streamed the whole flawless run there would be no proof of the transaction that was made between the person who paid for the carry and the carrier themselves. So my advice? [spoiler] Just don't play trials [/spoiler]

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        • Why does it matter?

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        • Edited by Venatorial: 9/27/2017 2:22:30 PM
          While I see where you're coming from, why do you care? Let people spend their money how they want to. I know this might be biased as someone who finds trials laughably easy, but honestly, if people want to waste their money on flawless loot that is literally handed to you if you play, then let them. I have friends who run account recoveries all weekend, and sometimes I'll help them out on a couple cards, but honestly, it's not a bad thing. People can earn cash from doing it simply because people are stupid and don't realize that they're wasting their money. Also, it's not a punishable offense. There would be no way to tell who was doing this, and the only way to ban people would be to ask the people who just got their flawless handed to them, and do you really think that they're going to sell the person out who just got them what they wanted? Not likely. So again, I see your point, but it's never gonna happen. It's not like the COMMUNITY MANAGERS DEEJ AND COZMO do anything to actually MANAGE THE COMMUNITY. So I get your point, and I can see that it's frustrating for most average players to be on a 6 win card, and then have it wiped away and get stomped by a team of 4 .2 k/d's because they're doing account recoveries, but still. Just do another card. They don't take that long anyways. EDIT: I just realized that you said you are guaranteed to run into at least 1 Sherpa team every seven games. In my experience, almost everyone I play is significantly below my skill level. We 6-0 almost everyone. That being said, there are occasional good teams that we match against. So either you are the world's most unlucky person, or you're just not playing to your full potential. Try coordinating with your team. Play unpredictably. Hope you get flawless one day. :) EDIT 2: I realize this comes across as conceited and narcissistic, but I assure you that was not my intent. Sorry for the hurt feelings if there are any.

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          • Lol. All this bitching BUT not a single worthy post to actually fight this problem. If you all care so much, start offering free trial carries. Put those dudes out of business by doing it for free. Oh wait, time is money, and most of you are full of shit.

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          • It wont stop. The only way to end it is to boycott Trials and limit the player base. Flawless is meaningless anyway now so it really isn't a smart thing to pay for anyhow.

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            • I never see top teams in trials even playing 40 games+ in a row it's rare to find a stacked team I think they are the best to play against it's the only way you improve

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            • I suck at it. But I just watched my 13 year old with 3 of his 8th and 9th grade buddies do it twice this weekend Just sayin......

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              • Have you seen eBay? £30... to complete the story mission for you?! Wtf? I can almost - almost, but not quite - understand people paying to have Trials or Raid carries, but to pay for someone to play the game for you... Surely there's not a market for this..... Is there?

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              • How would you do that, may I ask?

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              • If people are pathetic enough to pay for a carry then so be it.

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              • I like it when people pay for my video games though lol!

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              • You realize it is impossible for bungie to track right. They would need access to Microsoft or play station networks. Then they would have to prove it is in fact not you logging in on another box. PlayStation and Microsoft both allow this for connectivity to other devices, etc. So please stop CRYING at Bungie. They cannot and will not waste their time going to the console makers for information about possible log ins. Now if bungie ran their own network like Battle.net then yes they could. Please think before you type next time.

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              • Is this really a thing? People are DUMB. You can get this for free

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                • 30$ a trial run. x4 people logging into accounts 120$ made per ticket Most people who take the service have all three characters done too from my experience. Just look at the amount of paid account recoveries on EBay...

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                • Stop crying !!! Get good ... You sound like a girl who just got dumped!!! Who cares ...trials isn’t for everyone , it’s for good players not players that do good in normal crucible. 😂 asshat

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                  • It's not illegal or anything. You're just salty that u can't go flawless or win a trials match. Besides how often do u get matched with them? I'll wait. I don't pay to get carried because I can play the game and don't need to tread on other people's way of making money. Those people that carry are just trying to get some extra cash.

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                    • [quote]This is complete and utter bullshit. Bungie please ban these pay to carry players. Trials only happens on the weekend and honestly having to go up against constant sherpa teams which your 100% guaranteed to run into at least once every 7 games is just silly af at this point and its blatantly obvious. I know people legit get carried just fine to lighthouse but this pay to log in crap or pay to carry is against the end user license agreement, and in violations of PSN terms of service, plain and simple. I think @bungie should worry more about this shit than KEK gauntlets or w/e the -blam!- that was.[/quote] Honestly I think there needs to be a match making system. I know Bungie is smart enough to do that. If someone has been Flawless once in the group they should be paired with 1-5 times and so on and so forth. So even if they pay go on to the the next bracket you will never see them again. If Bungie is smart enough to make a game they can do that. OverWatch has a system and a few other games I can mention too. We want competitive matches but there is point where it not right. The other big thing is if someone has bad internet they should be kicked period in Trials. There very few places that have bad internet so the lagers and lag switcher should not be able to even get in.

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                      • The main bungie featured LFG is banning pay to carry = solicitation on their site. I've reported so many solicitation post since they put that ban notice up yesterday. The number of solicitation posts almost nothing on it. I also think they should take action on the forms as well. It's absolutely insane how many Flawless carries you come across or full Flawless seems that just do it to knock people out

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                        • I don't really see the problem, of someone wants to pay to get carried, there's nothing bungie can do to stop it...how would they even really know? It doesn't hurt anyone or anything, literally no effect

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