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Edited by Elundis Core: 4/14/2016 4:10:18 PM
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April Update: A Pathetic Cash Grab.

Preface: I'm not the guy that sat behind his computer hoping the Update would be a flop. [b]There are those people.[/b] I'm the guy who got excited about each live stream and thought about all the cool things I would get to do. So don't tell me about how I'm looking for flaws and trying to make the game look bad. So let's talk about what's good. Pros: Crucible Changes. I dropped 42 kills in my first game of crucible since the update, I only saw a couple snipers and it felt great. Good looking armor. The armor looks awesome in this update, and chroma is a neat way for customization, I look forward to collecting the spektar new monarchy gear and making my Titan Red, White, and Blue. New leveling system. The infusion system is great now, and the exotic engrams giving upgrades are nice as well. [b]Now for what's bad.[/b] Cons: Sterling Treasure. These packages disgust me. We are limited to earning three packages each week, and we rely on RNG to give us what we want. Bungie is almost forcing players to purchase Sterling treasure to earn the gear they want. [b]Don't believe me?[/b] There are two full sets of armor for each class, so there are 24 different armor pieces that you could get from a package. If you wanted the taken armor, you would probably take [i][b]8 weeks[/b][/i] to get the full set. I watched EnragedCinema (Prodigy) open 27 packages and not get the full set of armor. That's 9 weeks for the free player. Prison of Elders. Not many people like prison of elders, and this is just a reskin with a scorecard. Doing the new PoE quickly reminded me of how much I hate it. Nothing actually "new". There are a handful of new weapons, but the majority of content labeled as "new" is just reskinned weapons or Y1 weapons most players already have. Conclusion. I'm dissapointed in this update, it feels like a cash grab. I understand Bungie needs to make money, but just sell this update for 10$ instead of hiding the cool armor behind Eververse. I'm annoyed that the community asked for a Taken Shader and instead were given Taken armor in the form of micro transactions. Edit: Most people here don't understand the concept of a cash grab. Here is a definition: "When movie studios produce unnecessary and often poor quality sequels in order to obtain more money." Obviously Destiny isn't a movie, but the same concept is here. This update is poor quality, and done with the intent to make money from Sterling treasure. Better explanation [spoiler]Okay. Here we go. In Year 1 Bungie used a money making model of pre-advertised DLC (TDB & HoW). They set what was going to be included and set a price based upon what it will cost to produce plus a profit needed. They then set the prices accordingly. In Year 2 however they have moved onto the Eververse system with micro transactions. [b][i]Why is this meaningful?[/i][/b] In Year 2 Bungie has not advertised their updates like they did in Year 1. They were as vague as possible about it, saying "New things to do and earn." This allowed them to not make as much content but still make more money, since were not bound to anything. *Cue Tess Everis* Now Eververse is in the picture. The job of Eververse is to make money. Bungie has undoubtedly done psychological assessments to see what players will buy. Why do you think they have included Emotes from Classic movies or TV shows? Because they [i]know[/i] they charge more and people will still buy those. Napoleon Dynamite is a classic movie. Of course people want that dance. Sterling Treasure is the same way. The community asked for a Taken Shader and Bungie could have done that but instead make it into an armor set that you almost have to purchase from Tess. They knew people would purchase it and so they made the armor harder to get from the Sterling Treasure. This update is poor quality. But I would guarantee that they have a much larger profit margin on this update than any other DLC they have released. [b][i][u]That's a cash grab.[/u][/i][/b][/spoiler] Go read PhantomEm's comment before you comment anything about the update being free.
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    • You just figured this out?

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      • It is absolutely a cash grab. I want DLC that is based around content, not based around Eververse. I'd rather pay $10-$20 for an update that has no microtransactions. Also, the update is not free anyway, because you have to own TTK. If you own TTK, you've already paid for it.

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      • I spend 20 bucks an got all legs. used remains silver from Halloween which was like enough to buy 6 chest an I got all the taken armor, ship, and sparrow

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      • Reading through the comments and wow, this community is truly brain-dead. Just because the update is free doesn't mean this isn't a cash grab. Fact is most of the people playing Destiny want the taken look. They could've very easily made it into a shader. The reason you get 3 sterling treasures every week is to give you the illusion that you can earn it in game when realistically, getting the right piece of gear for the right class with the correct perks and bonuses is well not gonna happen even in the next 9 weeks as OP stated. So as you're faced with the harsh reality that you will not obtain the gear you want your temptation to purchase silver will be high and many players will fall victim to this business strategy and end up spending money on what is considered to be a free update but are almost forced to pay in order to get the best experience. Imagine VoG gear being sold at 3 light but you have a chance to earn it 3 times a week but someone with money can dish out cash get the gear while you struggle for weeks to get the rolls and when you do finally do get it without paying, Destiny 4 trailer will be released. We've been given a sample of a very tasty meal, now we have the option to wait 9+ weeks to get full tasty meal or pay bonus to eat it while it's fresh, the same concept is applied here and that people is a cashgrab.

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        • Clinton 2016

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        • Edited by SnakePayne86: 4/16/2016 6:12:57 AM
          Thats why I've renamed Bungie, SCUMGIE

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        • Ask for a refund, Punchy.

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          • R u retarted your complaining about free content at least you did not have to pay for it

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            • The only cash grab here is that praise the sun emote \[T]/

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            • You used an Urban Dictionary definition in your thesis. Grade: F-

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              • I can understand the majority of things you are saying here but you say bungie is [i]forcing[/i] us to buy the sterling treasure? No they aren't. We can obtain everything we want out of these packages without paying any money. Granted it will take longer but it is possible to get the things you want. If you choose to buy these packages just to get what you want [i]faster[/i] and then decide to be mad about it. That there would be your fault.

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              • But I didn't spend money on this update.

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                I mean I guess buying video games is a pathetic cash grab as well dlc a pathetic cash as well ..... Getting food is a pathetic cash grab because if you want food to survive you spend money right?

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              • HOW DO PEOPLE TRY TO DENY THIS? HOW????????

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              • I couldn't have said it any better. Honestly, not just that, but they could probably program it so drop rates increase or decrease for certain items, depending on what you already have, and if you bought the package, or earned it. Iirc I read Japanese mobile games took advantage of similar systems in the past. They'd even put in systems that would help determine if your the kind of player who pays for packages or not, and change the drops based on that. I could be wrong but that's what I recall reading anyways...

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              • I don't agree with your complaint. I think it's funny that people here would prefer to pay $10-20 for a dlc vs eververse. Bungie has fallen short on many things sure, but I enjoy the hell out of this game and the minute I don't I turn it off. I don't buy anything from eververse EVER. In fact I pretend it doesn't exist. When I see someone with full taken gear in the tower I DON'T care at all!!! It's a way easier response than rage-level jealousy.

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              • Couldn't have said it better myself. In realistic terms of their game, that exactly what they did. One thing with the poe, it's kinda blah, but considering the amount of players destiny lost with that update and no new raid, I lost my whole clan and friends who played destiny. I really just play with one guy cause we're fed up finding normal people to do the raid with and we have great in game Chemistry and so now we 2 man crota and do speed runs or just cause we're bored. So now with poe we can 2 man everything and create 1000000 orbs and try and get 5hr highest score between each other without some dragging us down.

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              • Edited by TheRedThirst: 4/14/2016 11:18:36 PM
                Title should read *Potential* Cash Grab... believe it or not there are those of us who can resist the urge to buy everything new and shiny they see. If people want to buy it, let them, its their money.... or are you new to Capitalism??

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              • Edited by pixelmagic: 4/14/2016 11:21:35 PM
                Personally don't care if it takes me 9,10,11,12 or 20 weeks to get full gear sets from sterling treasures (By the way you're guaranteed 3 per week if you do certain things but others can drop. I've seen plenty). I don't see the need to get everything straight away. I'm not racing with anyone. Think about it all differently. If eververse ceased to exist tomorrow would the game change for anyone? No not really. By the time the next update comes out everyone will have full sets of everything. Purchased or not. If someone has the cash and no patience let them get on with it. While it doesn't effect you or the game you play it really doesn't matter. As for the reskin comment. Every hand cannon (for example) is a reskin of a previous gun. It's always a hand cannon, just with a different coat of paint. When does it become 'new'? Are you not just a reskin of me??

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              • Next update is some time in the fall. I sure do hope it's a bunch of re skinned and old content!

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              • Yeah I saw this coming. I've gave up now give it 3-4 years and all games will be free with micro transactions which results in people paying around $250-300 a year for a $50 game so sad so sad.

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                • The worst part about the Taken Armor is that there isn't anything special about it. Everyone will look exactly the same. Eh I'll pass

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                  • I agree that the eververse and sterling treasures are cash grabs. It's why i didn't bother buying any. Chromas and emotes are cool, it's just not worth the silver. The "new" poe tho is pretty, even if it's a reskin. I'm not investing anymore money into this until the next DLC

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                  • I really hope your parents don't own a business that one day they plan on handing down to you. The whole point of bungie existing is to MAKE MONEY. People are buying silver, so it's working and they'll continue to stock Eververse. Yes the update is a cash grab, if they didn't think they could make money (a lot of it) then they would of never of bothered...

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                    • Tornado cash box!!!!

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