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The Sleeper Simulant Quest-line has been deciphered!

[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13688]THANK YOU Bungie for acknowledging our search.[/url] [i]Yesterday, those Guardians who had successfully foraged for crucial weapon fragments began the chase for the widely-anticipated Sleeper Simulant. The revelation of this new Quest was described as “awesome” by some. Others of you, who skipped meals and lost sleep on the hunt for the elusive Heavy Fusion Rifle, were not as pleased. The response to Sleeper Simulant was humbling because we did not predict the community reaction. When we try new things, players often teach us a lesson about how to do it better, and this one has us thinking hard about how Quests communicate their availability. Our challenge is balancing between the secrecy that makes these hunts exciting, and transparency that could spoil the fun for the hunters. As long as the community is giving us feedback, we’ll keep seeking the ideal balance.[/i] I still argue that 'time-gated content' is not the same thing as 'secrecy'. [spoiler]Yo Bungie, OMNISniper/echolog here. I've been doing my best on reddit (/r/searchforthesleeper) to solve the mystery of the Sleeper Simulant, and today we made a BIG step in reaching that goal. I believe we have uncovered and deciphered the full quest-line for the Sleeper, as well as ALL of the related items to the quest. The cool thing is... we are only missing ONE item (and we have a good idea of where to find it). First, huge credit to /u/DRayX17 on reddit for [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3n2g2f/new_info_relic_objective_descriptions/]THIS POST[/url] which located all of the related items and objectives! Below is what we believe to be the full quest-line to unlock the Sleeper Simulant, complete with links to items in the database and other data-mined information that all fits perfectly. Enjoy! [b][u]PRE-QUEST[/u][/b] - This is the phase of collecting relics and 'restoring Banshee's memory' that has to happen in order to unlock the main quest. [b]1.)[/b] Collect 4 DVALIN fusion rifles (Dark Age Relics) and turn them into Banshee-44. These are always found in the same order: - [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027711-classified]DVALIN-RAS8711-FR002[/url] - [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027710-classified]DVALIN-RAS93-FR001[/url] - [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027709-classified]DVALIN-RAS30-FR004[/url] - [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027708-classified]DVALIN-RAS432-FR003[/url], [b]2.)[/b] Collect IKELOS Fusion Core (Golden Age Relic). [b]THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FIND RIGHT NOW![/b] - [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665156-classified]The IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] requires several events to repair it. We will need to dismantle heavy weapons and take it around to Warsat events on various planets in order to repair and activate it. - Turn the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665157-classified]Completed IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] in to Banshee-44 to restore his memories and receive the following quest. [b][u]ACTUAL SLEEPER SIMULANT QUEST[/u][/b] (name currently unknown) [b]1.)[/b] After having his memory restored Banshee gives us the quest, the first step of which is 'The First Firewall' mission ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/FartSausage![/url]). He also gives us the [url=http://destinydb.com/items/2444987010]DVALIN Transponder[/url] (previously inside of the DVALIN relics) which will lead us to the source of the 'musical signal' mentioned by Banshee after turning the original relics in! - The first step is to enter the mission and use the Transponder to find the source of the signal. We assume the source will be the 'Seraph Network Terminal' which was the result of cracking the various encoded messages on Rasputin's computer screens ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/Browsing_From_Work[/url]). - Once we find the source, we will be asked to enter four passcodes into the Transponder. These codes are [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665152-classified]9[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665153-classified]8[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665154-classified]10[/url], and [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665155-classified]8[/url] digits respectively. The nodes are very similar to the Rasputin symbol, and possibly represent the doors in his complex. Each node can be selected as 'open' or 'closed' and acts similar to a Binary code (1's and 0's). - After cracking the code, we will unlock the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3774437926-classified]'Relic' version of the Sleeper Simulant itself![/url] [b]2.)[/b] Upon bringing the Relic found in the previous step to Banshee-44, he will use his gunsmith skills to power it using the IKELOS Fusion Core and give us the [b]Completed Sleeper Simulant[/b], and then we can go shoot stuff! Yes, the quest is only two steps. And that is important, because we already found the actual quest in the database! [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/quests/761532050-classifiedt]THIS[/url] is the actual in-game quest for the Sleeper Simulant. The reward for this quest is listed as 'Bungie Hidden Reward (3012398149)', which interestingly enough is one ONE DIGIT higher than Telesto, the only other Exotic Fusion Rifle in the game. :) You might still be asking, [b]"How do you know getting the Core will trigger the quest?"[/b] Well... because of [url=https://i.imgur.com/EqpkZWz.png]THIS IMAGE.[/url] That is the last page of the database when searching for 'Classified' items. You can see these items for yourself [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/search?page=4&q=classified&filter=0]right here![/url] Those items are not actually 'items' that you can find in the game. They are HIDDEN items. They represent quest trackers, which when collected, cause something to happen within the game. Each of the four DVALIN relics has one of these attached to it to tell the game which relic to drop next (which is why they always drop in the same order). Once you collect all 4 of those and the 5th IKELOS relic, they tell the game to unlock the Sleeper Simulant quest! So that just leaves one thing... [b][u]WHERE IS THE IKELOS FUSION CORE?[/b][/u] Well, let's take a look at it! The first 'node' on the item says this: - MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: IKELOS subroutine - HERCULES_11(GA=ISHTAR.ARCHIVES) This points to two possible locations. The first line references the IKELOS subroutine, which is not seen anywhere else in the game or the grimoire (outside of the Sleeper Simulant itself). Ikelos, in Greek Mythology, is one of the Oneiroi, the Dreamers. He is the son of Nyx (The Night) and Erebus (The Darkness). He is also the brother (or maybe son?) of Hypnos (The Sleeper). Interesting, another name for Ikelos is Phobetor. Sound familiar? The first lead we have on where to find this item is PHOBOS, the moon of Mars. This could potentially be either the Fear's Embrace or The Coming War missions. I've run through them both a few times today with friends looking for secrets, and they seem to be full of them. There are several doors that never open during the Phobos missions (particularly the door in the Oryx boss fight room) and there are lots of scannable items as well. That being said, I have no idea why a Rasputin fusion core would be in a Cabal base on Phobos... but it's worth a shot! The second line references the Ishtar Archives, as well as the 11th Labor of Hercules. More Greek Mythology! The 11th labor is Hercules' task to steal the Golden Apples of the Hesperides. The story goes that he asks Atlas to get the apples for him, and in the meantime he has to hold up the Earth. When Atlas comes back with the Apples, Hercules has to trick Atlas into holding the Earth up while he adjusts his shoulderpads, at which point he runs off with the apples himself. Hercules is a jerk! Anyway, this line also says the GA (Golden Apple, or perhaps Golden Age Relic?) is in the Ishtar Archives. Definitely a strong candidate for the Fusion Core's location. So yeah, there it is! We just need to find this fusion core and the Sleeper Simulant could be ours. BUNGIE PLS, GIVE ISHTAR ARCHIVES/COMING WAR DAILY HEROICS. WE DID IT REDDI- I mean... Bungie.net :) [b]TL;DR[/b] Destiny uses a series of invisible quest-tracking items that tell the game what to do next. Each DVALIN relic has one of these attached, and each one tells the game to drop the next one (which is why they always drop in the same order and you can't get two at the same time). The IKALOS Fusion Core has one of these tracker items attached to it as well, which indicates that it is the 5th and final relic needed to kick off the much anticipated quest for the Sleeper Simulant! Also keep this in mind... Bungie told the Basketball Court guys they were wasting their time after ONE DAY. They haven't told us that, which I think means THIS GUN IS AVAILABLE NOW. [b]EDIT: LOL SO MUCH FOR THAT IDEA.[/b][/spoiler]
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  • So I wasted my time doing the first and last missions for that?

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  • Is there anyway to tell if you've turned in all four fusion rifles yet?

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    • Hey man, I'm pretty sure the only reason that this mission on earth is available is because of you guardian. It seems as if this quest wasn't completely ready for us to explore. For instance, our ghost doesn't make a peep the entire time. I don't think it was on a timer. I believe that because of your post, detailing how to get the quests and items to acquire sleeper simulant, bungie decided to release this content to us. They didn't plan on doing it so early. But when they saw that the community had basically figured out the entire thing, and you put it into one post, they decided to release the content to us, unpolished. Everyone here should thank this dude for his hard work! Thank you! The truth is sub par guardians

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      • Edited by Sharky: 10/13/2015 4:30:42 AM
        Hey i lost my Sleeper like Wow that took a longtime to get and then bungie steps in and says no then takes it when i can only use it one sunday my last day of playing then go to school have a good day at school come back finding out my sleeper is gone ask my friend that has my acc then wait he cant even get on week days so bungie explain was this all a test to see how the sleeper is and it it says there is a other one that is not completed

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      • I thought Destiny had officially broke. There was no dialogue at all, Fight has incredibly dull, you wasn't sure why you was trying to survive, And even the AI in the enemys were acting funny. Boomers running up and derping you in the face. Boss fight was incredibly easy compared to mobs. And now what do we do? Wait? Im trying my best to not join the band wagon of people with nothing to do but play Destiny and then complain about how much they hate it, But a little more detail into what is going on would have been very appreciated.

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        • I called bungie out on the possibility of a bug existing in the game, and about them hiding the bug with a mission they scrapped together in an hour, post got 50~ upvotes, then taken down by mods. Nice one bungie.

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          • Bump, this is a bad move on Bungie. They're just purposely increasing the longevity of their game by locking content & releasing it whenever they feel like it, it's really stupid.. All that speculation & research about where SS could be was all just a waste

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          • This is just sad. So much work and effort from the community in all places to figure out the secret and find the trigger, when was never one. You guys did an awesome job at cracking everything to the smallest detail just for nothing. Because bungie had a timer on that trigger which required nothing to be solved at all, this is sad.

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            • I wasted so much time looking for a way to start this quest. Seriously annoyed. I know I was no where near the amount of time spent as others, but shit man.

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            • Today's time gate is the biggest disappointment of all time. Solving the puzzle that triggered the quest was intriguing. Realizing we solved it weeks ago and simply had to wait, not for a daily with some cool extra quest hidden in it like Spindle, but to just be handed it because we're finally allowed to proceed is disappointing. I get they don't want to leave this gun to RNGesus, but we should of had to work for it, and the first person to finally attain it would have been glorified for finally solving all the riddles. Nope. Here it is. Tune in next week for the next step.

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              • 300% with you on this. The worse part is how unfinished the quest is, i mean no dialogue... AT ALL ? In a mystery exotic quest that's supposed to be lore heavy ? I'm really thinking they actually had not finished the quest in time for TTK release date and they gated it until they could come up with something.

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                • I am kinda pissed we went through such headaches for what we thought was going to be a puzzle of epic proportions WHICH IT TOTALLY COULD HAVE BEEN

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                  • The "quest" line was lame.

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                  • I had the quest but now its gone, does anyone know why this would happen??

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                    • I think it's a slap in the face of the people who actually work to pay bills who actually spend money on your crap that you timed out the sleeper stim quest. I'm going to buy Arkham Knight and never play your shitty game again. Go F yourselves.

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                    • As soon as turned in the exotic core thingy to banshee and accepted the quest it never showed up in my quests page...what do?

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                      • I wanted this quest to be longer damnit

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                        • Think about its supposed to be the most powerful gun right? But the quest line to easy to short right? But then you do touch of malice or Boolean Gemini which are much harder an longer an they require more then one player helping.

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                          • What's funny is that there was a post last week that mentioned Cozmo had done a classified mission involving the saber strike. Cozmo had this weapon a week or so in advance.

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                          • I just noticed the codes 9 digits 8 then 10 then 8 matches the 4 relics we pick up. Two of them have the same amount of digits one has 1 more and another has 2 more. There might be a relation...

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                          • The "image" from the original post claims that Praedyths Gift (from daily Paradox mission this past week) are parts of No Time To Explain. How do we know this and why is no one talking about that?

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                          • how do you check how many fusion rifles you have turned in

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