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Изменено (odder130):
2/9/2015 8:40:11 PM
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This is why crota isn't a fun raid
This is why I have no ambition to do the Crota raid anymore. I got what I came for and I have no intention of coming back to get the sparrow or ship. The bugs in VOG were annoying but a good team could beat the raid despite them. However do to the mechanics in the hard Crota raid (the oversoul and him enraging when he gets low) these bug cause numerous wipes on attempts that should be wins. Also the fact that you decided to use lvl advantage/disadvantage the raid simply isn't fun. I know this is only one of many bugs but I have yet to see someone present video evidence of these bugs in their post so here you go.
Edit: Amazed to see this trending. In addition apparently there is some confusion with people reading the post only and not watching the video. I know that the low health enrage, and oversoul on people dying is a mechanic and not a bug. Please watch the video to see the bug. You can skip the first 12 seconds if you need to.
Edit 2: I was host with a good connection. Not perfect but the one just under that. So lag may have something to do with it but I did have a good connection. It was one of the first things i checked afterwards.
Edit 3: let's try and get this trending again
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2 отв.Its sad when the hardest part of a raid are the glitches.
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I find it works best to have your team take pot shots at Crota when he is about to get up. That way he will be focused on shooting them instead of killing the sword guy haha. That was pretty epic though lol.
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2 отв.You do know that the oversoul when he gets low is a mechanic of it, not a bug....right lol
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1 ответNot to disparage you or your post about the bugs, I definitely understand that those are frustrating and definitely make the experience less enjoyable, but I do think overall the raid is an excellent addition and on par with VOG. A lot of guardians lament the lack of deeply involved puzzle solving and teamwork like that which was present in VOG and that confuses me! The pit section is a much faster paced kind of teamwork and let's us know right away this raid is going to be more hectic which I really enjoy. While VOG was more deliberate this is about overcoming a huge swarm of enemies Also, and I'm not accusing anyone, I'd think a lot of people who say they hate this raid cheese the bridge. A good number of LFG posts require a sunsinger who can self res so they can cheese it when getting all 6 across is some of the most fun I've had in destiny! This raid definitely is intricate and it definitely requires a lot of teamwork it is just a different kind. And the bridge rivals anything in VOG but it is just unfortunate that so many people don't get to experience it because of the simple cheese there
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Apart from the bugs I just think this raid's design doesn't have the longevity of VOG. VOG is still fun and goes through dramatic areas, Crota is extremely linear which is fine but it makes replaying it a little less exciting. I think the main problem is the amount of people who just want to cheese everything. No one even wants to play the raid any more.
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My teammate posted a video of something very similiar happening to him while we were doing the raid: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/94494499/0/0/1 Unfortunately, it happens way more often than it should..
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I got my nechro so I'm done
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1 ответYesterday when we were fighting the chalice despawned. We were almost there too
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It is a connection issue. Just because you were using a host that has a good connection(as seen in your edit) Doesn't mean the servers themselves don't lag from time to time. Rarely happens, but it happens.
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Bingo. I'm done with hard Crota. It's not fun.
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damn ive never seen him get up so fast
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bridge and deathsinger CP are fun. The other parts are bad design. I won't be doing hard mode again until xur sells heavy.. and it'll be to try and 2 man it.
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Изменено (USADT): 2/9/2015 3:41:38 PMi've had that happen to me numerous times, this is a result of them fixing the "cheese" where you could keep crota kneeling. Oh yeah, and dont forget about the disappearing sword, blaming glitch usually happens on the last run, WTF. All i need is the ship, crux and sparrow from hard mode, after i get those i'll just stick with normal crota cp for the exotic drop.
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Ive had this to. some times he just insta slams u nothing u can do about it. but for sure it's all the swordrunners fault lol
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Yep I agree 100% Put it this way myself and a bunch of randoms did from the very start to Crota cp in less than 20 mins then because of glitches and the odd mistake took 1 hour to beat Crota WTF Did Crota cp on normal this past week with 5 people and no communication and did it first try Sort it out bungie
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1 ответI bloody knew I wasn't over doing it and seeing things!!! He never turned orange and didn't get up on my screen!!! The lads blame me and I run sword every week, I have it down to an art yet he chops me without me knowing how the hell he did! Arggg
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I have everything from the raid I need as well (minus shards, which I'll obtain through the beginning sections of the raid before Crota).
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That second that you thought you grabbed sword and didn't, that's what -blam!-ed you up. Not a bug not a glitch. When he's that low and about to enrage you have to kill that swordbearer quick and get the sword right away
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This actually happened to my clan first time bringing him to enrage and we thought it was a raid mechanic that he pops up automatically upon enrage. We spent several completions afterwards playing a strategy to try to get around it... Pain in the behind
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Yeah the past times ive played his last hair of life stays there an we cant beat him .
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Seeing what they did with the level differences, I think they were trying to discourage 31's from doing it early. The damage difference is significant. While it's not impossible to overcome, it makes it extremely challenging. The biggest thing I hate about the hard mode is how it's all about timing and timing is affected by connection. If one person in the party has a poor connection, it messes up the whole fight.
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No, the raid isn't fun because the enemies continue to come if you kill them. You get absolutely no reward for killing any enemy besides Crota. You should be rewarded for killing enemies while in actuality, you can beat this whole raid by only killing 6 or 7 guys.
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1 ответThe enrage is after a certain number of hits, not just low health. It's meant to force the sword runner to think about more that swinging at crota. You have to do the math in time to kill crota while enraged. It's a challenge, not a bug.
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1 ответYou took too long in dropping the sword and blink striking crota to go invisible. Probably due to inexperienced raiders who were all panicking.
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2 отв.I never found this raid fun from day one, glitches or not. The vault was fun no matter how many times I did it, but this one became a chore almost instantly. Just my opinion
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11 отв.Изменено (Omni Reverie): 2/9/2015 2:17:08 PMHaha I didn't even have to watch the video. How do you not know what to do? You use middle strategy, one guy distracts boomers. (titan bubblshield or send someone behind the tower where the boomers are to shoot the wall) Sword bearer must get [b]7[/b] hits on Crota the first time. Easiest with Hunter, 3 hits on first down to allow enough time for blink strike invis, then 4 hits and scram. Next sword you must get [b]6[/b] hits. 3 each time he goes down. [b]Anymore hits then that and he will go enrage[/b]. Then you go to ogre room, [b]wait for Crota to go to the center, then allow him to go to the right, then back to center.[/b] This allows sufficient time so that way if you take too long with ogres you're not rushing it if Crota is already in the middle and he happens to rotate right. Seriously I should start charging people for this strategy, obviously some people aren't that smart since Crota isn't that hard to beat on hard. You keep doing this and if you wipe, you wipe. You're not going to get it in one try because shit happens. For example bugs or people die. Quit complaining.
