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10/19/2014 11:26:58 PM
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Raid is Unfair for PvP players
I would like to preface this by saying I am not a PvP player, It is just not my cup of tea. However I do enjoy the multiplayer in other franchises such a Halo and CoD. One of the main reasons I played these was to obtain the highest rank/level. If the raid is the ONLY way to get to level 30, the people that are drawn primarily to PvP will never get to the max level.
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Yeah but if all you care about is pvp lvl doesn't matter
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I don't think it's unfair it's there to test you and your friends skills and lvl 30 doesn't do anything pvp wise (except iron banner but very minor advantage) and it's advantages won't matter in PvE if you only play PvP
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4 отв.Yes it is. It's also unfair to the solo wolf. You now know to review your next Bungie purchase before buying.
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Guess pvp ppl better start raiding
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And PVE players are forced into PVP for bounties. It goes both ways.
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77 отв.Unfair!? Us loyal and focused PvE players got our guns nerfed because of PvP players incessant whining. That, that is unfair. Unfair; PvP player got the Iron Banner bounties all to themselves, PvE players had to share the Queen's bounties. Unfair; at least 2 out of 3 Exotic Bounties [u]require[/u] PvP play. Unfair; the vast majority of you whiners will be Ghosts as soon as the new COD drops (play on words intended), but we PvE players will still be here grinding away and dealing with the fallout from the incessant whining of PvP players. So take your cries of "unfair" and stifle them right up your whiney arses.
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4 отв.Waiting for the unfair part. Your level in pvp doesn't matter.
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I think you'll find that PVPers are the most competitive gamers and as such something like the VOG would appeal a lot to them because not only would completing it get them lots of bragging rites but also the VOG exclusive gear ( and the fact that they are the only ones that are Lv.30 ) makes them stand out as Destiny's most elite players. This is why Destiny's Iron Banner turned out to be the way it was, Destiny's best players have not only beat the VOG many times ( on many difficulty levels ) but they spend most of their time in PVP because nothing in the PVE really challenges them and Bungie were terrified that the Lv.30's would destroy and decimate anyone under Lv.30 so they balanced it on the sly so that everyone could take part.
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2 отв.That's their fault. The Raid is only meant for those willing to construct a highly focused group of guardians to give the hardest mission all that they got. If you cant do that, then you don't deserve the 30 in front of ur name
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No, it's fine. There's no reason to desire level 30+ if you only play crucible. The iron banner was the only pvp event that effected level advantages. And if you played it, the advantages were non existent. How could a level 3 hunter wipe out a level 30 Titan? I don't know how, but it happened frequently. Therefore, levels don't matter for crucible players.
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If you only play pvp you won't care about being level 30
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Do that many ppl only play pvp on this game? It sucks balls in my opinion,il only do it when I have to and I really enjoy multiplayer usually. not in the same league as halo 3 or reach for multiplayer
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Too bad for them. Id they wanna reach max level by killing other players they need to go play CoD, Halo, and Battlefield.
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Haha this is hilarious!!! [spoiler]oh wait... Your serious...[/spoiler]
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Being 30 or 20 has no difference in crucible
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Quite simply, pve needs to be completely seperate from pvp. Offer different rewards or whatnot that are are unique to both. Thats fine. But stats and gameplay needs to be seperate so a balance can be maintained. I understand bungie wanted to transition between the 2 (the attack stat being the mediator), but it just doesnt work effectively. Take the mythoclast for example before the patch. Its stats made it the best rifle in the game without the attack stat. Because of this, the gun was op in pvp. So, this shows that the stats have to be equalized directly for pvp no matter what without effecting pve. 2 pvp gamemodes: Crucible: all stats equalized based on weapon category. All characters are also equalized. No supers or special abilities. Make it oldschool. It will be competitive still with leaderboards and whatnot. Iron banner: pve stats transfers to pvp directly. No equalizer. Matchmaking puts together opponents within reasonable levels. Seems simple enough to me. Doing this also allows a more varied stat difference and style of play between each class if necessary (tanks, glass cannons, stealth, etc). Just equalize each class for crucible on all stat levels and maybe scrap certain abilities. Keep it oldschool.
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Изменено (JusticeThePeacekeeper): 10/20/2014 6:38:21 PMThis is completely off base bro. Bungie has done nothing with the real issues of this game and only gives pvp what they complain about. weapons were nerfed because pvp players complained so bad about them, which is fine but all destiny equipment is also pve usable so they screwed over pve in the process. It needs to be a separate playlist.
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Pvp needs to be seperate, or deleted.
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Ok lets be honest here The emphasis in Destiny is PVE Completing the story, the Raid, the endless strikes and working towards level 30 Why the hell are people pissing an moaning about PVP? This isnt Call of Duty or Battlefield This is an Online cooperative FPS RPG first and foremost The Crucible is just so players can get their Call of Duty/Halo multiplayer fix Stop complaining about weapons being OP, stop complaining thats a class is OP, stop complaining that Atheon can be knocked of the edge or about Loot caves If you dont complain Bungie wont then Nerf/enhance things unless they deem it necessary not because 1000 players find it unbalanced etc
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Pvp got a lot of decent PvE weapons ruined, so suck on it, pvp.
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1 ответHonestly that would make the game too easy I had to work my ass off to get level. 30 I used to have 3 warlocks so j cud max out my gear it is about luck and commitment and I hate to see others achieve what I have with faking in a pvp match
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Yea well when PVP quits bitching nonstop about every other exotic weapon in the game I might actually care. Until then they can all suck a fat one.
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Why do you need to be lvl 30 for pvp? silly boy please tell me.
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Well... This is a PvE focused game... PvP shouldn't even be in it honestly.
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Thing is, events like the iron banner should give provide raid equivalent armor since you can only gain rep by winning and completing challenging bounties.
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Nerf the raid! Make it PVP only and just have the person who kills the most players over in 10 minutes get all the raid gear and all exotics! F**k PVP players. If they want to stick to PVP, then let them. But stop pandering to them if they think a weapon needs a nerf just because they can't be bothered to try and earn it in PVE.
