[quote]Even with your clarification B doesn’t make any sense. A fake friend would be the one siding with you no matter what, because they’d want to make sure they look the best in your eyes. A real friend would trust you enough that they would feel comfortable taking the stance against you.[/quote] What? A fake friend doesn’t give a shit what you think about them. They only pretend to like you and if they correct you in a public setting with witnesses around they don’t think highly of your dignity. A true friend never intentionally embarrasses or humiliated their friend. Otherwise using that logic people who work for the government actually hate the government because they agree implicitly with everything they do publicly.

Yes, so a fake friend would want to make sure you stick around, by smiling and always saying you’re right. A real friend would trust you enough that just because they disagree with you, you’l still be their friend. If you get offended over it, maybe you’re the fake friend for not respecting their beliefs? I always take the side I agree with in an argument, no matter who’s on what side. I’m not trying to shame or embarass anyone, but I trust my friends enough to not hate me for not always agreeing with them.

[quote]Yes, so a fake friend would want to make sure you stick around, by smiling and always saying you’re right. A real friend would trust you enough that just because they disagree with you, you’l still be their friend. If you get offended over it, maybe you’re the fake friend for not respecting their beliefs? I always take the side I agree with in an argument, no matter who’s on what side. I’m not trying to shame or embarass anyone, but I trust my friends enough to not hate me for not always agreeing with them.[/quote] Incorrect. This goes back to what I said about people working for the government. A fake friend DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR OPINIONS/BELIEFS. They won’t defend you when you need/want to be defended. Like I said before in the OP, disagreeing with your friend privately is different than publicly. If you really feel like your OPINION is more important than your friend’s DIGNITY then you are part of the reason there are so many fake friends out there. Agree publicly; disagree privately. If you REALLY feel the need to take a stance against your friend, don’t be an ass and disagree outright, be a mediator and say something to the effect of “let’s agree to disagree” and let them move on with their dignity intact. If your ego still won’t let the conversation rest, then wait until the two of you are alone and THEN tell them how you feel, RESPECTFULLY. I rest my case.

The government is a completely different thing. If I’m saying something totally stupid and outrageous, then I would rather have my friend step in amd say “dude, you’re making yourself look like an idiot” rather than smile and nod and say “yeah, that’s a good point”. Why? Because if anything, it’s more embarassing for me to keep ranting about a subject that I clearly know nothing about. And a true friend would be the one who’s willing to step up and tell me I’m being an idiot, not the one trying to spare my feelings. And I’m not speaking hypothetically, either, I have had one of my friends speak up and tell me how little sense my argument made in front of a group of 12 people. And I’m glad he did. And if you gave me a choice between him, and someone who would’ve say back & done nothing, I would choose him every time. A real friend doesn’t spare your feelings, a real friend is honest with you.

If being embarrassed publicly is your kink, more power to you. I’m telling you the warning signs of a shit friend, and not siding with you on arguments is a major red flag. If they don’t respect your dignity enough to spare you embarrassment by dissipating the argument and changing the subject, they don’t respect you at all. I guarantee you that you won’t be talking to that friend that disagreed with you in 5, 10 years. Even less if you’re still in HS. In fact I’d bet money on it. The people that you’ll find by using my trifecta of rules are the ones that will be at your deathbed.

Really? Because I’ve been talking with that friend ever since middle school, whoch is well over 10 years. In fact, he’s one of the only friends who’s stayed with me for that long. The ones who always smiled and said I was right were the ones who left. Real friends get in fights. They argue, and get mad at eachother. Because they trust eachother to show their true emotions. The real friends aren’t the ones that pretend you’re always right, they’re the ones who come back after those arguments. If you throw away a friend just because they disagree with you, then you’re the one who’s only in it for yourself, not them. The most important part of a real friend is the word [i]real[/i]. They’re not putting on a mask for you, they’re themselves, which includes disagreeing with you sometimes.

[quote]Really? Because I’ve been talking with that friend ever since middle school, whoch is well over 10 years. In fact, he’s one of the only friends who’s stayed with me for that long. The ones who always smiled and said I was right were the ones who left. Real friends get in fights. They argue, and get mad at eachother. Because they trust eachother to show their true emotions. The real friends aren’t the ones that pretend you’re always right, they’re the ones who come back after those arguments. If you throw away a friend just because they disagree with you, then you’re the one who’s only in it for yourself, not them. The most important part of a real friend is the word [i]real[/i]. They’re not putting on a mask for you, they’re themselves, which includes disagreeing with you sometimes.[/quote] Maybe you’re missing my point. I said it’s OK to disagree with them in a private setting when it’s 1 on 1. I encourage it actually. But in a public area it’s not acceptable. You should always throw a lifeline and diffuse the situation and like I said, argue with them later privately if you can’t bring yourself to agree with them publicly. Ask anyone who joins the military for example. They shit talk each other day in and out but the second someone else outside the military talks shit, even if they’re right, they get dumped on by all the branches. That’s how a REAL friendship works.

And as I said, I’m referring to disagreements in public. As I said, that friebd has gotten in arguments with me in crowds of people, and they’ve been my friend for over a decade. Because the mark of a [i]real[/i] friend, is that they’re [i]real[/i] with you. That they don’t slap on personas to make you happy. Some might stay out of it altogether, and some might disagree with you outwardly, but the ones that are fake are the ones who pretend to agree just so you don’t feel bad. And getting made fun of (i.e. sh*t talking) and an argument are two different things. If someone’s putting you down, or making fun of you, of course a true friend would stand up for you. But that’s different than taking your side in an argument when they disagree.

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