I solo'd to Fabled just fine and got Recluse. I even found time to obtain Luna. My favorite thing about them was that I actually only needed to rely on my skills. What I abhor about Mountaintop is that 1/3 of the Triumph required to complete the quest is completely RNG I can kill opponents all day long, but multikills are just down to luck. Double and triples rely on opponents that group together so explosions will kill them. It's a shame too, because I really want a mini rocket launcher.

Fabled is so incredibly easy to get to now. It's getting past Mythic I that's the real crapshoot. Sorry, but if you can't get to fabled then you're not good enough to deserve the weapon. Hey, fear not though. The Pinnacle weapon this coming season is woefully underwhelming so there's something you can't complain about.

I completely disagree. I am a below average PvP player and have managed to get to fabled 2 times solo. The key was setting a goal of getting enough points to utilise the three match buff of 120 points. So this season 1980 was the requirement. When you go in solo YES you are at a disadvantage against teams, but I have had my fair share of stomping teams as a group of solos. Don’t go off alone, follow you are other team mates and help them. If you see someone go off alone follow and support them. After fabled it changes and currently this season my highest rank i’ve got to solo is mythic 1. But the skill gap is huge so i’ve had to bow out going for legend. As for the weapons the only two which are overpowered are lunas/not forgotten. The mountaintop definitely isn’t, there is a huge skill curve which i’m only getting to grips with now...on console which is worse than pc. The recluse is perfection, as you need to get a kill to utilise the perk, unlikely lunas/not forgotten which rewards you for hitting crits which you will inevitably do anyway.

I disagree , with the new point system Fabled is not hard to get to solo. I solo’d all of Luna’s first season it was available at that was way harder than it is now as progress is literally twice as fast with the current point system. Are there times when u run into stacked teams of 3-4 who stomp u..,? Yes of course that happens , but honestly it’s few and far between just grinding to Fabled . Now legend.., that’s a while new ball game.. I got a team and grinded NF and that was still not an easy feat but I’m no godly pvp player by any means and I did it. If u can’t hit Fabled solo then maybe u really do need to hone ur skills before attempting it, the pinnacle weapons are for the better players to get or the extremely determined average players to grind for. I see no problem with the way Comp is set up and honestly like I said before, Fabled at this point in the game is not that hard to get to, even solo. I grinded out Recluse in 1 day solo queuing , so try to learn and get better rather than come on the forums and complain about weapons that are “too hard to get “..

The matchmaking is a wash. Some bad matchmakes against you and plenty in your favor. If you’re at least decent in comp, you’ll get very close to s 50% win rate which is all you need to get it by attrition. You also get bonus points per week so you can just break even and you’re over +100 for the week due to bonus. I’m average (1.2 k/d) and have soloed both SMG and HC. It’s not as bad as some ppl make it out as long as you know going in that it’s a grind fest.

[quote]1. The people who have them are usually sweaty tryhards who play and play and play all day, which giving the professional players powerful weapons just furthers the performance gap. The guns are great, but it's mostly the people who use them that are a pain to play against.[/quote] Is this a serious complaint? Because LMFAO if so "People who have higher skill use good weapons" boo hoo. C'mon now [quote]2. Matchmaking is incredibly RNG. You never know who you'll be paired against and, when solo-queue, with. The other pinnacle weapons take alot of work, yes, but you don't lose progress with them. You can lose glory points for loss, and due to the extremely RNG nature of matchmaking, individual skill is a moot point. The "git gud" mentality is completely flawed since it's the skill of the TEAM that determines the winner, and since teams are randomly generated, whether you win or not is almost entirely up to RNG. Being good only increases your chances, but doesn't guarantee anything. The biggest problem here is that progress towards, or away from Fabled rank is up to RNG.[/quote] You can combat that rng by inviting friends, making or joining a lfg group or inviting players you just matched with or vs. You can also combat this by sticking with your team and playing together even if you aren't partied up. You are choosing to go in solo, it's up to how you play that can sway a match [quote]Because of this, it is literally entirely possible to never be able to acquire fabled rank[/quote] And? The entire point of a ranked playlist is not that everyone reaches the top..... [quote]That discourages many people from even attempting it or causes people to just give up hope on it.[/quote]Then that's thier choice.

You're right that it's all chance but I wouldn't say it's possible to never be able to reach fabled. If there's a chance you just have to keep playing and, according to probability, you'll eventually get there. Also the matchmaking is glory based so it isn't completely random.

They aren’t that powerful....

"oNlY SwEaTy tRYhaRDs cAn rEAch FablED." You want to make a constructive argument against pinnacle PvP weapons go ahead. If you want someone to cry to find your mom. Also matchingmaking isn't RNG it's based on Glory rank, server area, and player population.

2100 wasn't the pinnacle and all of the "pinnacle" weapons should have been rewarded for hitting "Legendary" not "Fabled"; much like 21% Delirium and Not Forgotten.

I think this is a very valid concern to have, and with the new changes coming I don’t think they’ll be as dominant and crushing for new players. But you don’t have to be a PvP god to get luna’s howl. Especially with the doubled gains.

They were only added to replace trials in the first place.

Been on a 27 losing streak. Guess the people who’ve won every game? People using pinnacle loadouts. Mountaintop Luna’s/NF/Recluse 1000 Voices/Colony