What's this? Fae making a vaguely political post? How rare.
I suppose I should preface by saying that I myself am overweight. I haven't weighed myself in years, but if I had to guess, I'd say I'm about 250 pounds, but I'm also a tall, big guy (6ft+.) I've made numerous attempts at losing weight over the past few years to little or no result, but I'm giving it another shot since next year is my last year at uni and I want to get into good habits.
Anyway, "fat acceptance" is problematic to me. While messages like "love yourself the way you are" are well-intentioned, I feel like people use those messages as a justification to relinquish all personal responsibility for their current situation. Why would anyone want to lose weight when they could just surround themselves with people who enable and even encourage their self-destructive lifestyle?
Being overweight is miserable, especially as a young person, as I can tell you from personal experience. You start to hate the way it feels to be in your own body. You hate the way clothes look on you. It destroys your self-confidence. You're also more susceptible to a lot of health conditions.
Personally, I feel like true "fat acceptance" (and "body acceptance" as a whole) is accepting you have a problem or something about yourself you would like to fix, and having enough self respect to act upon it. "Loving yourself" isn't an excuse for you to have another full serving of mac'n'cheese at dinner.
[spoiler]This post applies much less to people who have health conditions that lead to them being overweight. However, while those people do exist, they are a tiny fraction compared to the amount of people who are overweight from simply making poor life decisions.[/spoiler]
Woops, I cut this down to keep it short but it still ended up being pretty long.
Anyway, that's my little mini-rant over. I wish you all luck on your own personal journeys of self-improvement.
English
#Offtopic
-
3 отв.Изменено (FoMan123): 5/23/2019 10:28:00 PMI agree with you. I think it's an unhealthy movement that is socially costly in terms of health care, human lives, and individuals' self-esteem and wellness. I also have a small suspicion that the movement is being funded -- or at least quietly supported -- by food industry associations. I flatly disagree with telling people "you should not try to improve yourself" regardless of whether you're talking about health/weight, skills, knowledge, or personality/behavior. And for background, about 2 years ago I was the same as you -- just shy of 250 lbs (6 ft tall). About 2 years ago I got sick of being fat. I lost 70 pounds, hit my goal weight, and have maintained it within +/- 5 pounds ever since. There are countless people out there giving advice about how to lose weight and keep it off, so I know my own thoughts are just a drop in the ocean, but since you said you've tried dieting unsuccessfully several times, it struck a chord with me because that was me when I was about your age. So, for what it's worth, here's how I did it: 1. Start by counting your calories. Use a journal or spreadsheet at first. Be obsessive about it. Set a calorie limit that works for you (for me, it was 1200 calories on days I didn't work out, 1500 on days I did) and STICK TO IT. After a few months, you'll be able to count calories in your head -- and you should. Forever. 2. Whatever calorie limit you set will feel incredibly small. Accept that you will be hungry. You'll think about food all the time. You'll talk about it with your friends (by the way, find a friend or family member who will support you in this). You'll wolf down your smaller meals in 2 bites and crave more. You'll start following food blogs and foodie accounts on Instagram. It's miserable but it won't kill you. After a while it's kinda funny. 3. Speaking about #2 (the hunger), you'll find ways to manage it. Eat tons of vegetables to fill yourself up without taking in many calories. When you absolutely MUST HAVE PIZZA, have a half of 1 slice instead of 4. Have a cheat day every couple of weeks, but keep it reasonable -- "cheat day" doesn't mean binge 20,000 calories in a day. But maybe it means 3000 that day. A cheat day gives you something to look forward to on the days when you're really hungry. 4. NO FAD DIETS OR PAID WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAMS. You need to find what works for you, and a 30-day "cleanse" or only eating bacon and steak is NOT sustainable, nor are these diets ever healthy in the long run. And those paleo and keto diets can go -blam!- themselves. They don't work in the long run for the vast majority of people who try them. 5. Instead, cook for yourself, as much as possible, and make your meals from scratch using raw ingredients from the produce section (NO MEALS IN A BOX). This tip should actually probably be number 1 or 2. You can't cook? Neither could I. And if I can learn to cook, anybody can. You don't have time? Bullshit. Did you really need another hour to sit on your ass and play Destiny when you could have been whipping up your own marinara sauce from scratch? Plus it's cheaper than eating out and you learn a valuable skill that makes you a hit at parties and more attractive to potential romantic partners. IMO knowing how to cook from scratch is probably the most important life skill you can have, and as a bonus, it's hugely helpful for losing weight. 6. For me, weight loss was 80% diet, 20% exercise. To put it more bluntly, working out is not an excuse to pig out. However, exercise is still crucial and you can't lose weight without it. Plus it's good for your brain, heart, cardiovascular system, and having muscles doesn't exactly hurt your attractiveness either. Find the exercises/classes/sports that you enjoy and get your heart RACING for at least 3 hours a week, more if you have the time. After a while, you'll start to love and crave it, not in the least because you get to eat more on those days. :-) 7. is darker Again, just my $0.02 from the peanut gallery, but as a person who was in your shoes more than once, I definitely feel for you. And yes, don't put on a false face of "acceptance" if you feel like you can and should improve your health and aesthetic. Go implement that change. You can do it!
-
I have a tip. Eat a ton of celery. It takes more calories to digest it then the ones it gives you.
-
If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life. Henry David Thoreau
-
1 ответ[quote]Fat acceptance? You mean bonus points right?[/quote] -Stephen Fitzgerald, going 75 on a sidewalk
-
Fat acceptance is not okay.
-
Изменено (crazycazza95): 5/23/2019 1:17:21 PMWhere is ben shapiro when you need him? He will destroy these fat acceptance groups with facts and logic
-
yeah, the whole body tolerance movement has been a mixed bag as far as being good or bad. my bottom line is, reward good behavior, don't reward bad behavior
-
18 отв.Изменено (TheArtist): 5/22/2019 11:35:28 AMBiology also plays a role in who is overweight and who isn't. Changing lifestyle and diet only goes so far. ...and I'm near sighted. I got my first pair of glasses at age 8. Like overweight people, you get shamed growing up about it. Got called "four eyes" more times than I can remember going through school. I have come to accept my vision problems. Who I am is not defined by one characteristic that I cannot change, and I'm not going to let an insane world tell me who I am and what I am worth. ....or what I should look like. YMMV. I'm comfortable with the idea of wearing glasses for the rest of my life to correct my vision. If other people don't like it....or are uncomfortable with it? Screw 'em. I wish them luck in dealing with THEIR problem.
-
You make many valid points and I agree that the nerfs are BS and that eververse should be removed from the game! [spoiler]sorry, I’ve been scrolling through #destiny2 for too long, it’s not healthy[/spoiler]
-
17 отв.Personally I eat like a pig and never gain weight, sooooo does this mean I have a problem?
-
#WalkItOff.
-
1 ответI think this, along with most social issues, could be solved by people just minding their own damn business. No one needs someone else's permission to love themselves. And no one needs someone else to tell them all the ways they're hurting themselves, either. Let people make their choices. Accept those choices that don't directly affect you anyway. And stop vilifying people who choose differently than you. Seems pretty simple. We need to accept each other as people. All the rest is just trivial bullshit.
-
3 отв.I’m just gonna leave this here for anyone interested in starting a diet. https://www.freedieting.com/calorie-calculator At the end of the day, the willpower to see the change in lifestyle through has to come from within; else wise the changes won’t be permanent. I know a thing or two on nutrition (and working out) so if anyone has questions, I’m open.
-
[quote][b]I hate fat acceptance[/b][/quote] Shit dude, that's all you had to say! *Upvote*
-
14 отв.9 hrs without ban... I’m surprised.
-
fwiw I agree totally. Same could be said for a great many enabled false practices these days.
-
Everyone should get to feel comfortable in their own body, but I really dislike how people use fat acceptance as an excuse to stay overweight.
-
I agree with this and the things you said about being overweight destroys your self confidence hits home. When I was in seventh grade, I was about 300 pounds and I felt like a loser. I just stopped eating one day and I lost way too much weight after a year. Found out I was anorexic, but from then I learned if you are sick being feeling like shit and you truly want it to stop, make it.
-
[quote]While messages like "love yourself the way you are" are well-intentioned, I feel like people use those messages as a justification to relinquish all personal responsibility for their current situation. Why would anyone want to lose weight when they could just surround themselves with people who enable and even encourage their self-destructive lifestyle[/quote] That might be the most well said thing I have seen on this website. I can't think of any way to say it better. Its perfect.
-
1 ответI love you.
-
3 отв.Yea eat a salad, you fat fuks.
-
Изменено (IMADAJ): 5/22/2019 5:56:00 PM16 years and counting working in a hospital. A lot of my patients are there because they are eating themselves to death. High blood sugar leading to multiple toe, foot, and leg amputations. Knee replacements and trouble walking. Bed sores from lack of mobility. Bad back. Heart and vascular problems. Digestive issues. Trouble breathing. Poor hygiene do to lack of mobility. ([i]Unable to self clean after a bowel movement for example[/i]) These things happen to people who are not overweight as well, but its exacerbated with poor diet.
-
4 отв.People are people. I try to judge people on whether or not they are a good person rather than physical appearance. Nobody is perfect and everyone has some “vice” or imperfection. I’m definitely [i][b]far[/b][/i] from perfect so who the hell am I to judge.
-
12 отв.I agree this is a problem, where did the world start getting so soft?
-
2 отв.You're right. Staying fat is a self-destructive act. Summoning the necessary willpower to improve your situation is a wise decision. People don't stay fat because they love themselves, they stay fat because it's easy. I've lost 26 pounds. It's been quite difficult, and going to get harder. But I intend to lose more.
-
2 отв.I’m 5‘10 and I am like 220, I’m starting a summer workout routine for marching band in August, I’m hoping to lose at least 20 pounds, I wish you luck on your journey. [spoiler]im not healthy[/spoiler]