We need to be as strong as we are now to be satisfied. Better design and mechanics should be implemented not nerf. Lazy Bungie

I think the main reason why everybody is angry is because of the fact that the TWAB [b][i][u]only[/u][/i][/b] listed nerfs. No buffs were mentioned at all. They should have listed some buffs after the nerfs. They can't release a TWAB like that and expect to not get flamed. I'll agree that a few of the nerfs are justified (Skull of Dire Ahamkara is a bit ridiculous), but this is a terrible time to make changes like this. I feel like a better nerf to Whisper would have been to just reduce its damage. It would keep the property that makes it unique, but at the cost of dps.

[quote]how strong do you people need to be to be satisfied?[/quote] Well, after 45min. running, jumping, crouch-walking, and whatever else it took to get to that boss (and RNG), I want it burnt crispy as soon as possible. Outside of patrols, enemies scale to your damage output, so you aren't really powerful. I'd like to be surprised at how powerful we could be one time to be honest.

They are indeed justified, but this is NOT the time to do it. Let me throw this situation at you: You are a twitch streamer. You are under review for a partnership. During your evaluation, you say every bad word in the book when you sold yourself as child friendly. You then fail to capture you past audience anymore and fail your chance at partnership. So what do you do? You change back to how you were. You get some people back and say you won't do it again. Oh get your second chance at a review for partnership. Then you -blam!- it up again. How many times are you going to continue giving your community false hope that you are going to be different, only to back stab them again? Should you expect you can continue to try this a third or fourth time? I don't think so. To summarize what I mean. Bungie gave us so much time to get comfortable with this stuff. They baited us into believing that they will be different, that they aren't complete idiots...only to do the opposite. And when they need to sell themselves the most, they show us that our beliefs and trust is not deserved nor is it respected. They gave us so much time to enjoy what happens, only to end it all in one fell swoop. It's not a tweak to reduce their effectiveness like ace of spades and Lord of wolves is, for the exotic armor and whisper it's a full on nerf. And for gear that they let us get comfortable with and planned to nerf, they did a pretty stupid job designing content that supported those particular exotics. Bungie is too fixed on creating this boring and linear "fight ads and shoot a standing boss" ideology. Maybe they wouldn't have to nerf them if every activity wasn't just the exact same shit with a different skin. I get it's easier said than done, but now is the worst time to do it. Let the people who actually play the game find their way through stuff and tweak it from there. There's no real justification for nerfing the super armor because they purposely design activities that become near impossible without them. Like...i understand reckoning a good representation of that, but designing it to only be doable with them is going to give extremely limited results. And more than likely, the change to the armor won't make a difference in what people use because most other exotics are shit.

Well they could actually balance the weapons before they put them in the game, but they’re either too lazy or incompetent to do that. At this stage Bungie are nothing but a bad joke.

We want what we had. Not some watered down weapon, armor or super. But that’s what D2 is. A watered down version of D1. Bungie sold us a product. That’s the product we bought. Nothing to do with satisfied or your take on this.

The changes are justified, but tough challenges deserve good rewards, Bungie needs to remember that.

Very much agreed. You seem to be oneness if a few people in their right mind. I don’t like the nerfs but they are all understandable

Most of the nerfs are justified?!? Most of your face is justified!..... Wait. That's no insult..... Fair enough dude. You are more than entitled to your opinion and I'm not going to shit on you because of our difference in opinions. #positiveforum

No. Hell no. Not at all.

Ah, you spelled unjustified wrong

PvE nerfs are never justified.

Re: super regen exotics. We all know they’re going to go too far with it. They went too far with it with the Shards of Galanor and the Ursa Furiosas (which they somehow claimed are being nerfed even further), now they’ll just handicap the other super regen exotics into uselessness. I think a sensible nerf to these exotics would be to cap their regen at 50%. That way you’re still getting up to twice as many supers with these exotics equipped, but it isn’t so insane as to be able to say throw multiple nova bombs in the span of only a few seconds. As for the rest, I more or less agree. Sleeper change seems stupid. Lord of Wolves change is meh since I don’t use it, but I’ve heard it’s still going to be doing among the most damage of any shotgun. Ace of Spades wasn’t so much a nerf as an adjustment. I think they could’ve done something different with the Whisper change, though, as right now entirely removing its ability to regen ammo basically just means that the Whisper without the catalyst is only exotic in how it’s a heavy sniper, as Lunafaction rifts or rally barricades do the job of reloading for you. I think a better change might’ve been to mix pulling from reserves and pulling from thin air. Say, 1 is pulled from thin air, 2 from reserves. It wouldn’t be infinite ammo, but it would be exotic, unlike how it’s going to be now.

Slayerage is a -blam!-ing clown

Just a horrible post.