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4/24/2019 7:04:25 PM
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I dont blame anyone for using the best gear available to them in a competitive setting. I rather expect it tbh.
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Why is using your best gear in QP any different? QP doesn't mean easy, it means the matches are quick to play, simple if you will. Doesn't mean they aren't competitive in nature, anything PvP is going to be competitive.
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I never said QP wasnt a competitive setting 🤷♂️
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Изменено (Shatterday): 4/25/2019 2:16:42 AMYou implied it. You said... [b]in a competitive setting[/b]... As opposed to what exactly? A non-competitive setting? Which is what? Since it was necessary of you to point out the [b]competitive[/b] setting... Maybe we just curios if Patrol ...or any PvE....would be considered the non-competitive setting you speak of?
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PvP in and of itself is inherently competitive. Your assumption =/= my implication.
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So, care to elaborate? What is your version of a non competitive setting? Let's not forget this all started because you chose to differentiate....you don't blame ppl...and expect it. As opposed to what exactly? You've still never answered. Leaving the implications intact. Please let us know when it's okay to "kick back" and such... I will say, nothing about this game is competitive, will never be treated as such ( only by a small select group ) and maybe most of us realize this. You, however...implied that every match you play is "use the best gear possible". Just trying to find out what this game is molding into...if I'm wanting to get back into it or not...the mindset of the playerbase, and the direction are very key ingredients to that. I'd just like to know if you, or others, are still treating this game like the Olympics.. Or if it's back to being low-key, relaxed, fun hobby that many of us enjoyed thoroughly.
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[quote]So, care to elaborate? What is your version of a non competitive setting? Let's not forget this all started because you chose to differentiate....you don't blame ppl...and expect it. As opposed to what exactly? You've still never answered. Leaving the implications intact.[/quote] Non-competitive would be when you arent competing against anyone. Its pretty simple language, non? Again, there was nothing of this sort implied, you are merely projecting what you think onto what I said and treating it as gospel. [quote]I will say, nothing about this game is competitive, will never be treated as such ( only by a small select group ) and maybe most of us realize this. You, however...implied that every match you play is "use the best gear possible". Just trying to find out what this game is molding into...if I'm wanting to get back into it or not...the mindset of the playerbase, and the direction are very key ingredients to that. I'd just like to know if you, or others, are still treating this game like the Olympics.. Or if it's back to being low-key, relaxed, fun hobby that many of us enjoyed thoroughly.[/quote] When [b]competing[/b] against other players, I'd expect people to go with what they consider to be their best gear. Some may choose to use something less effective, but then quite frankly thats a choice that they make, and they have no right to police others loadouts.
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Изменено (Shatterday): 4/25/2019 3:35:44 PMNo, I asked what would be the non-competitive version... We have competitive...as an actual playlist. QP...nothing needs to be said. So...are we discussing Private Matches...or PvE... Private Matches, with restricted loadouts shouldn't be a thing to you? If so, definitely not competitive then? Right? Yes, that's exactly what you just said. I [b]compete[/b] against myself all the time. Every single day I'm in a competition with myself. The goal is today, I'll be better than yesterday.
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Non-competitive PvP? I refer you to my earlier statement - "PvP in and of itself is inherently competitive". You want to police loadouts? Then yeah, you'd need some likeminded people in a private match.
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Изменено (Shatterday): 4/25/2019 4:07:56 PMWait, so you're in the belief that there isn't a non-competitive version of Play-versus-Player games? You realize I've been dodging you argue semantics.... What you're doing is just as bad someone who thinks any game you shoot something and loot drops, is a looter-shooter. You also, realize that load outs are a big thing in PvE as well right? By all means, it's clear this is getting nowhere. I understand ANY form of PvP is actually [b]competing[/b] against another, but you can [b]compete[/b] against yourself, or A.I. It doesn't have to be against another player. Regardless, one thing is for sure tho...you never told me what this non-competitive setting is. I mean...if there isn't one of those, then how can there be a competitive setting right? Or is that what you're trying to say...that there really is just...setting. Not plural, no description. There is just this 1 version and it's use your best guns. If that's what you're trying to say ( wish you woulda just said that ), then so be it. That's what I been trying to get out of you this whole time. I would and do disagree with you on many accounts, and it's clear this conversation digressed, instead of progressed as well. So I take my leave, as I refer you to my initial response - [quote]You implied it. You said... in a competitive setting... As opposed to what exactly? A non-competitive setting? Which is what? Since it was necessary of you to point out the competitive setting... Maybe we just curios if Patrol ...or any PvE....would be considered the non-competitive setting you speak of?[/quote]
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I'm not sure how "PvP is inherently competitive" could be made any clearer. Its as simple as that really. Bottom line - people can use whatever they want to use. Trying to police how someone else plays within the intended bounds of the game reflects very poorly on you. Your leave is welcomed.
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You're under the impression I'm trying to police things. I was wanting to know what your version of non-competitive settings would be. This conversation has reflected poorly on your comprehension skills. Since you never answered...and choose to tell me...I'm trying to police load outs. The very competitive games...have restricted load outs for competitive settings. In the non-competitive game modes...there are no restrictions. Simple actually...as you said.
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[quote]Just trying to find out what this game is molding into...if I'm wanting to get back into it or not...the mindset of the playerbase, and the direction are very key ingredients to that. I'd just like to know if you, or others, are still treating this game like the Olympics.. Or if it's back to being low-key, relaxed, fun hobby that many of us enjoyed thoroughly.[/quote] You're definitely trying to police loadouts lol. Especially with that second paragraph. Now about you taking your leave - take it. Please.
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Still...no answer. Just the usual nonsense from the forums. Twist it up all you want. All I wanted to know.. What is your version of competitive setting...opposed to a non-competitive setting... A competitive setting...has restricted load outs, all on the same playing field...skill overcomes all. Non-competitive setting...well...that's what every game mode in Destiny is...
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I've stated it clearly and bluntly twice. You just refuse to accept it, and thats on you. As for twisting - I directly quoted you. Your own words.
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Unbelievable...but yet...par for the course around here.
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That can vary on a person's perception. I'd say almost anything pve is non competitive at this point and can be done with experimental loadouts. This is the case because it's more black and white, meaning you either complete the activity successfully (win) or you don't and almost anyone can complete anything at this point with many loadouts. I'd say pvp is always competitive because you generally can't complete the activity (and win) with any loadouts with the exception of a small minority. So the opportunity cost of equipping lesser weapons is more severe.
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I agree, which is why I was curious to this non-competitive setting this fella was talking about...
