I hated seeing my deaths by thorn and last word

Best, and most balanced was exotic HC/pulse rifle meta. Any hand cannon could compete. Any pulse rifle could compete, from Praedyth's Timepiece all the way to The Messenger. Scout Rifles were in the same spot they are now, they couldn't melt, but you could work w. Them if you chose to do so. Auto rifles were the only weapon type that were absolute trash. Shotguns were OP, but you could actually challenge them...there was actually variety among sniper rifles. There wasn't just one stupid sniper that could revive-snipe & kill supers, there were a couple excellent options ... Fusion rifles were fantastic...oh, how I [b]wish[/b] my beloved fusions still performed like that, Jesus I'd be in heaven. Now? You have a few select weapons that kill in speeds rivaling Call of Duty, meanwhile 95% of the rest kill in speeds closer to Halo. For example- TLW, Grasp, Doctrine...Thorn, Praedyth's Timepiece, other high RoF autos/pulses. and then...there's everything else. It's so unbelievable to be honest. It's so unbalanced, and it makes crucible a nightmare...especially w. The way matchmaking is. Snipers can't be challenged by anything besides a sniper. Can't spray down shotguns unless you're using one of those few high-TTK weapons...and even then, good luck against a good shotgunner. Fusion rifles have, again, been nerfed into the ground for no reason w. The latest update. Heavy...well heavy is heavy - cheap, bull shit kills. Crucible is awful right now... Rip gunfights [b]edit-[/b] with that being said, I've been looking to expand my friends list w. Some similarly skilled people who regularly play crucible. All I run are 3s, and I'm pretty good. Therefore I am constantly getting matched against other high skilled players, and it's miserable to play solo now. It sucks. If anybody is interested, let me know. I play pretty much daily, & if we play well we can organize Sweaties too. I'm on Xbox One, tag us the same as my username. Thanks!

People that think the thorn meta was the worse, were you even around when vex and Suros was a thing? At least you could work around thorn. Back then if you didn't have a vex then you just wouldn't put yourself through the hell of crucible. It's why it was so many people raided!

Thorn tlw era was way worse. Yall bitch about getting sniped now, Thorn was a real sniper. Idk bout hawkmoon as im on xb1

Most of the people who voted for as it is now prob didn't play the other metas

I enjoy playing 3v3 with the current meta, but I tried 6v6 and had to turn off my system. Every game was both teams hardscoping from each side of the map and if you tried to push you have no help and you're atleast 3v1.

Buff handcannons (except thorn and TLW) to HoW form. Buff Pulse Rifles to 2.0 form Remove Viking Funeral completely from the game Fix Shoulder Charge/Melee hit detection Fix BladeDancer hit detection Buff ArcBolt damage Make shotguns a tad more consistent. Reduce Transcendence duration (24 seconds to 19) Buff Sunbreakers to original form, whilst keeping the 50% damage reduction/cauterize nerf. Fix the Shadestep weapons ready/animation cancel glitch, as well as being able to Shadestep Firebolts, arc bolts, axions, skips, or swarm grenades. Buff high/mid impact AR's [b]Fix the bullshit[/b]: improve the "lag", hit detection, and random dying stuff so that crucible is more like 1.0 (Pre-TTK) Now you have a solid crucible experience. Overall this meta is pretty balanced IMO Edit: And all saying this is just to nerf warlocks, if you think Viking Funeral/ToF Firebolts [b]isnt[/b] broken, then you're ignorant. Hell if you leave transcendence how it is that's fine.

While Crucible now seems to be more camping with MIDA and snipers, I'll gladly take it over the hand cannon era. Yes Vex Mythoclast was broken at launch, but not many people had it. When more people figured out it was, Bungie nerfed it into the ground. The entirety of HoW was Bladedancers and Voidwalkers running Blink and either a god rolled Matador or Party Crasher, with TLW or Thorn as a primary. There was hardly any snipers at all. Every exotic hand cannon could two shot from insane ranges and it made year 1 trials insanely difficult

The best was the how meta, so fast and aggressive

Most of the people who say Crucible now vs. The Worst 7 Months of Destiny AKA "The LastHawkThorn" probably weren't playing then. Getting two tapped by Thorn from across the map and just having to sit there, knowing you'll burn out. Getting shredded by Last Word in about 10 frames, still cross map. Perfectly rolled weapons as far as the eye could see, Final Rounders, Felwinters Lie and it's competition. Absolutely horrid time to play for those who didn't use "crutch/meta/no skill" weapons.

The fact that The Last HawkThorn era isn't winning by a mile is astounding to me.

I miss the hand cannon shotgun meta. I was snipping during tdb before it was cool with my longbow synthesis. If you learned to snipe during the prime shotgun era it made you learn to be faster at snipping and to do it well at close ranges. Not the wait for ya ass to pop out the door snipers we see today. Make shotguns op again so the scrubs will go back to it.