Christ. This week's (I don't even want to consider this a hotfix) "hotfix" was two....TWO fixes to the CE raid. Nothing else.
Players have made countless threads on bugs that have existed ingame since the damn launch.
This is going to happen AGAIN with HoW. You're going to release the raid that can be entirely "cheesed" AGAIN. You're going to sit there and spend all of your time trying to fix something that apparently you guys can't even make halfway right in the first place.
There are far more things to this game than the raids and nerfing guns in PVP. Start fixing THOSE things first.
The entire raid can still "cheesed" after the first CE patch AND the most recent patch. Give. Up. Move on and start working on other things that affect the rest of the game.
This is showing a lack of respect towards players. Countless threads with thousands of replies and up votes and it's not even acknowledged. When are you going to start listening and make the game better for EVERYONE, not just those who raid.
This is so ridiculous. When are you all going to get your heads out of your asses.
Let me guess, next week's "hotfix" is going to be MORE patches for the raid only and other problems in the game are going to continue to be ignored.
Edit: most people wouldn't even cheese or try to find exploits or your poorly designed game if the RNG wasn't so ridiculous. There's no need for a massive buff in drops, but this is the exact reason why people choose to take that path. We spend enough time playing hundreds of hours trying to get a few things we want, but the game continues to hold them out against us.
So here's another edit since some people seem to be taking this the wrong way:
I do not mind that they're trying to fix the exploits. I could 10,000% care less. The objective of this thread was to try and get them to stop focusing so much on their raids, that people will CONTINUE to find ways to exploit. It's almost as if they're trying to have a war with the playerbase.
I want to see them actually make useful hotfixes for ALL the players. The last hotfix I've seen like that, that truly helped, was when they fixed decoding of engrams. After that, damn near everything has been useless.
I want to see the game get better overall. Not just one aspect of the game. They spend so much time trying to fix exploits of the raids they release, rather than paying any attention to the other things at hand.
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2 Respuestasahahaha, we don't want peasant 31's cheesing the raids just like you, so yup you mad now hahaha
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You made so many pseudo-raiders cry, congrats. Agree with your assessment, but Deej has acknowledged vault space and something else. They increased the amount of SC you got from Nigjtfall too recently. Released iron banner with 32 gauntlets so they're at least hearing some what for Pvpers too.
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Atleast fix the glitches in the game while you are fixing the cheesing. They are more worried about cheesing than legit poevlem in the raid
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What about working to fix the servers with all of this lag in PvP? I swear, since Bastion and First Light were taken out of the playlist rotation, the lag has been worse. Since the increase of players during the holidays the lag has become God awful. When will Bungie come up with a hot fix for the netcode?
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Editado por NateOrb: 1/21/2015 3:57:07 PMI genuinely believe all the raid fixes are so casual players(probably most of their playerbase) cant easily do 3 raids a week and hit level 32 quickly then wonder what else there is to do This theory also fits in with them not fixing anything that actually hurts players(swords disappearing, minotaurs lag healing, crota coming back up immediately etc and thats only raid specific problems) Maybe I wouldnt be so quick to think that way if there werent lots of other bottlenecks in the game too(cap on marks per week, limited bounties, one raid/nightfall per week, commendations etc) edit: forgot my tinfoil hat
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1 RespuestaMy only complaint is when are they going to fix VoG?
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2 Respuestas[quote]I do not mind that they're trying to fix the exploits. I could 10,000% care less. [/quote] so you do mind?
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I'm with you man on everything. To the people that hate the cheesers,I'd say at least half of them are the guys that did it with you 32's when you were 30's and 31's, they're the guys that watched you get gear piece by piece as they got 2 shards for killing crota. Not just once but over and over and over.Then you finally get a chest piece and get it ×3-_-.The guys that got to atheon or crota and have the game bug out .Yea I know its random but you gotta feel for them.Personally I don't care, If I want to do it legit ill look for a team with same desires same as you looking for a team that's looking to do it fresh or that have a cp.There are small things that people have been asking for since week one. Small things that can have great impacts on the game.Bungie knows there will always be people looking for exploits,they said it themselves. How we work on the small things to where a majority of those guys won't feel like bothering. Win win for everybody.
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3 RespuestasThe problem is Bungie uses us as content testers instead of actually finding the bugs themselves. And they need to give an impression that the content is up to a certain standard and artificially hit that mark by removing player enhancing glitches and leaving hurtful glitches. If you can be slowed down but it doesnt always happen then its a win for the developer in this case. Welcome to the new generation of game development. Where you can put out half baked games and people will comtinue to buy your product.
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The say we get quality updates is the day after people stop exploiting the game.
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I'd like to meet the design and coding team, hit them with fish across their faces. Pushing atheon off was clip error, easily and yes I mean easily fixable and extremely foreseeable. Bridge in crota, why didn't they have it so all three pads on the opposite side had to be activated at the same time to avoid those being able to snipe off map. Infact why have mountains you can climb..... Why have a chest you can just get on three chars or more if you deleted and remade that gave you exotics....... Also now shards which some need still. Crota when you land should be six to build the bridge not one that could then go onto to solo a six man raid...... Loads more whine I could pour. I cheesed crota, which casts suspicion on those that say they didn't. No one will ever know if you cheesed or not but most will think you have. Apparently hard mode relies more on the team and less on a single super human and his five lackies. I hope this is true, then weak links won't get anything.
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Stop cheating the raids then!
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3 RespuestasDude, I'm a cheeser and I completed raid legit once yesterday, it was very fast, we did pauses because some people left and others joined, at least my other 3 cheesing friends were there all the time and it was a walk in the park A very smart person in this forum posted once (I wish I did remember his name): Bad players complain, good players adapt
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Agreed. They are pushing their game out and letting us beta test everything. If it is an embarrassment to Bungie - hot fix. If it impacts a player negatively or causes a wipe during a raid. They leave it in the game. Its flaky how they go about it. HOW will be the same scenario and it is just around the corner.
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2 RespuestasYou sure seem to know a lot about the future.
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They're releasing them to get ready for the hard raid release...
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Make people stop cheesing the raids.
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I have no problem with fixing raid cheeses, but just to echo (and maybe soften a bit) the OPs point, it is frustrating when BUNGIE pours seemingly all of their efforts into "fixing" things that aren't actually breaking their game rather than actual issues that ARE hindering performance.
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2 RespuestasCrota has bought Nikes. He sure likes to jog about the place more.
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21 Respuestasif you had half a brain cell active you would realize all the "cheeses" were found by accident. there is no way bungie can think of every conceivable scenario to test for. once these are found, they are fixed. what more do you want?
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4 Respuestasall i know is your right and plus heres a bug for ya yesterday when me and my guys did the raid we got to crota one time we killed the swordbearer the dam relic disappeared.. the next time we killed him crota literally chased the relic holder off the bridge jumped off the bridge by the knights and 1 hit a lvl 32 relic holder then he teleported on top of half the team on the right side where the glowing circle is and killed all of us... took about 5 tries to kill him the 1st time then 2 sword bearers and then 3 swordbearers because he keeps getting up to early
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I agree wth everything in this post. Thank your for finally saying it.
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1 RespuestaWhat a scrub
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2 RespuestasOMG I can't even begin to explain how glitchy Atheon was last night. Should've been fixed months ago, caused us a couple wipes
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Bump! There are far more relevant glitches and fixes that actually make the game unplayable to fix such as the numerous VOG problems ( regenning praetorians, regenning oracles, detainment fields in Venus/Mars time streams, Atheon firing through relic shield etc) vs taking the time to fix a cheese technique that just let some scrubs get better gear. They will still suck and not be able to beat CE on hard so why prioritize fixing their shenanigans rather than fix legit game breaking problems?