So if they take it away from hunters, what should they take away from the other 2 classes if you don’t mind me asking?

This whole year of Final Shape has been Hunter meta. As soon as Final shape launched 6 Hunters in Control, 3 hunters in trials.....(the only 2 modes i ever really play) What was the problem? [b]Storm's Edge, smoke bomb (radiant + weaken), Swarm grenades, threaded specter, slow dodge.[/b] [b]That's WITHOUT an exotic!!![/b] You add an exotic like bombardiers, or gemini jester, wormhusk, or even Bakris. & there was very little you can do. -You're burning, there's threadlings chasing you, you're slowed (smoke), you're slowed again (Stasis), and 30 seconds later it's the same thing all over again. [b]They can make an easy escape (without any risk of being aggressive) and you can't escape to begin with. [/b] And now there was THREE of them. Then after some nerfs you still see people playing hunter but then you saw that Titans are making an appearance because they have 2 things (knockout & diamond lance) + their exotics like ACD-feedback fence or peregrine greaves. And then fast forward to this season what do you see again? Hunters back at it again with their tricks. Slow (bomb), Slow (Marked by prowl), weakened, with so many ways to punish team play and so many ways to go invisible......and now there's three of them at all times. & oh would you look at that....a hunter exotic causing problems in PvP (RDM).....what a shocker. -Especially Strand Hunter with RDM (Suspend dive is such an annoying playstyle, like what do you mean they farmed my teammates and can dive 3 times in a row.) Titans made an appearance again (for a short time) before they nerfed the bolt-charge damage. It's a Hunter's game for PvP. There's no reason to play any other class when hunters have the most advantages in their arsenal. -The most PvP exotics & the most tricks up their sleeve (aspects & abilities)

You can't tell the Hunter mains this. They will argue you down! "The other classes are just as OP"!! But they won't run the other classes, just Hunter! Wonder why? 🤔 They know why, just won't admit it. Not without an argument anyway.

Invis hunter has been around forever, why is it suddenly an urgent problem?

First it was hunter smoke grenades, then it was the rdm exotic, then the new artifact, now invisibility. Might as well just delete hunter for being a hunter. Do keep in mind if you use a ratking you go invisible on any character and it does not require a cool down, get a kill, reload and boom invisibility with 0 cool down.

This was available in d1 on demand with no cooldown. What changed to make it a problem in D2? Less visibility ?

Who knew Destiny was about abilities? Talk about a surprise lol

I don’t see the problem [spoiler]ba dum bump tssss!!![/spoiler]

So does Icarus Dash/Snap skating, Electric Slide (esp on Prism when paired with Spirit of the claw or Synthos), Overshield barricades and Shiver Strike

I think RDMs is the real issue why it feels so bad rn. It’s essentially infinite invis. It’s nuts.

Invisible shouldn't be a thing in FPS games imo. If it is in the game it should be a power up the opposing teams have to fight for like in Halo

The problem I keep seeing is when they changed the lighting methods. Still, I remember when I used to go into PVP for the events as a Nightstalker, it didn't matter how invisible I was, I'd still get crowned from a thousand yards away. It definitely came after I stopped worrying about matchmaking for the event cards. The tough part is, with invisibility, they can either leave it alone, or make it useless. There is no in-between. If they nerfed how invisible you are, everyone will see you, which defeats the purpose, yet if they nerf the duration, you won't be able to do anything before it wears off, defeating the purpose. If only there was a way to tradeoff. MAYBE health doesn't naturally regenerate while invisible? Even that has some problems. It's harder than you think to solve these problems without breaking the crucible.