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Editado por The Ashen Ranger: 11/24/2023 4:50:18 AM
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Bungie, you're actively driving players away

I was genuinely excited and looking forward to the new season before the TWID. Other than the undeniably terrible Lightfall campaign, I've actually been really enjoying this year in Destiny almost as much, if not more than the Witch Queen year (besides the campaign). Strand has been some of the most fun I've ever had in Destiny, the seasonal content and exotics were cool and interesting, the exotic missions were really neat and challenging, and you guys have been implementing so many great quality of life changes to the game which we've been wanting for a long time now. We were also finally at a point where the strength of our builds felt like it matched the increased difficulty you guys added to the game, and we were promised more exotic tuning and Stasis buffs as well. Overall, things seemed like they were looking up, at least for the new season. ... then you guys decided to nerf all builds across the board, cutting down on all survivability to nerf a few outlying builds, removing all ability focused builds from the meta entirely, and then effectively removing bonk hammer from the game just because it was fun and somewhat strong/popular. And to top it all off, you didn't even really buff Stasis in any meaningful way. I went from really excited about the new season, to wondering if I'll even have the motivation to play at all. Seriously, almost none of my builds will survive the nerfpocalypse without being massively weaker and not worth running anymore. I just can't fathom why anyone would think those changes were a good idea, especially with player numbers already at all-time lows. If anyone from Bungie is reading this, and doesn't want to keep driving Destiny into an early grave, please convince whoever is behind this balance patch to reconsider it.

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  • Seriously! It’s like they’re trying to kill their own game. I’ve never been less excited for a season. Anything that was fun and viable will feel like a shell of its former self.

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    • I have not played since lightfail and have not missed the game. The continuous nerfing based on x percent a players use x is just stupid. Let us have FUN. This current season champion restrictions looks just awful.

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    • Everything here is spot on. I just did my own post about this too. My entire clan stopped playing (only two people still come on occasionally) and it's not as fun and engaging as it was before. Every time I see a nerf I'm bemused and frustrated. I can't believe it. I don't know why a company would actively try to make their product fail, but that's what it looks like they're doing. This will be the first time I didn't buy the new expansion and content year since I started playing. I've always wanted them to succeed, and I had hoped that beyond the Final Shape we'd have a continuation of this universe and our characters. But I've given up now. From what I've read online, it seems that the devs feel they haven't been listened to by the bosses.

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    • You really have to like that we're coming off of the layoffs and disappointment and the terrible Lightfall expansion and rumors that the next season will be 6 months long and the funny news that Marathon may in fact be garbage and Bungie's just like "check out the coming nerfs and this phat buff to Apotheosis Veil!"

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      • Yeah, they’ve really buggered the game. I started playing D1 because I found regular FPS games bland. Destiny was a breath of fresh air for me. Space magic, gunplay and being a powerful being. But Bungie has killed all of that. I will likely stick around for the Final Shape (which I expect to be a Square Peg for a Round Hole), but that will be it. Bungie has sucked all the life and joy out of their own creation. Why? I have no idea. Seems somewhat counterintuitive but there it is.

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        • Editado por Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 11/25/2023 2:16:35 PM
          Lightfall is the first expansion that didn’t hold my interest until the following season, and Final Shape will be the first expansion I don’t get the deluxe edition specifically because I no longer care about access to the most unrewarding activity in the game, dungeons. The only activity that affords no player agency for chasing weapon rolls is “coincidentally” also the only activity in the game that I have never gotten a single weapon roll that I want. Not a single desired dungeon weapon roll from any dungeon, ever. The combination of this return to the “joy” of the random drop, the poorly implemented bringing back of challenge, and the constant overcompensating nerfs have just reduced build crafting to something much more bland than it used to be. I can’t get a of the weapon rolls I want to try out with builds(mainly from dungeons, but also IB and playlist weapons), exotics or abilities repeatedly get nerfed to the point of uselessness in higher end content, and poor attempts at increasing challenge that involve bullet sponges, one shot enemies unless you max resilience, and combinations of ad density and environments that mean you basically have to spec for survivability making it very limiting means diversity and trying things out for fun have taken a massive hit. I don’t think these trade offs were worth the cost of the fun factor.

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        • I read the twab and thought to myself, "well done Bungle, you've made sure I won't ever be returning." I had no plans to anyways but, this made it 100% sure.

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        • Lowest peak player count and lowest average player count on steam charts and lower daily player count than curse of osiris 🤣

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          • Editado por Roach: 11/26/2023 8:14:51 AM
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            I knew the end was nigh when I watched the Lightfall Vidoc and saw the female Dev announce that the thing she was most psyched for, the thing that the she couldn't wait for us to see .. was the Pulka pool. Not sure that that's the right spelling but meh, who cares. Infected with her enthusiam I left the oxygen thief that is Nimbus muttering to itself, and headed into to see what this creative oasis was. Were we going to be able to earn a Pulka ghost shell ??, is there some kind of activity where we learn more about this mysterious creature ??, was there some lore ?? Nope. Its a tiny pool with some fish in it. That's it. They just swim about for a bit. Meh. I haven't been so disappointed since Christmas 1981 when nine year old me excitedly opened my Scuba Diver Action Man present to find the box empty. My Dad said he must have deserted from the Royal Navy and if I saw him to let the Military Police know. Then I discovered that a large female halibut, which has been tripping out with a taken version of Sloane, was the seasonal story for us to do something, I cant really remember what. Something to do with fishing. Lost interest at that point. Still, at least it didn't have Eido in it telling her dad, the Kell, what to do all the time. Hopefully someone strapped Eido to one of those huge guns on the tower and fired her into the sun. Or the huge black hole where all the hope Destiny players once had lives on in forlorn solitude. I genuinely wonder what goes on at Bungie. I suspect all the people who got fired were those willing to stand up and be counted, because based on this latest TWID, TWAB or whatever it is this week, it looks like those left behind wouldn't know what players want if we all stood under a thousand foot neon sign that says "THIS IS WHAT WE WANT !!" .. with a bright arrow, outlined in pulsing strobe lights, pointing to what we want written in great detail in six foot high letters. It's just time to move on before we get another clueless dev wittering on about what they're excited for us to see. Because it won't be worth it. Never forget the Pulka pool.

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            • Funny how Joe interprets statistics. 20% use Bonk Hammer so it's being nerfed. 80% don't use it Joe! How do you twist that into it being too popular? The rest of the Twit shows just how clueless "The Team" is.

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              • I don’t think they mean to I just think they are a company of clueless shareholders/senior management and low level developers. They are so bad at game development and I absolutely believe it when they say game development is hard for them.

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              • [quote]I was genuinely excited and looking forward to the new season before the TWID. Other than the undeniably terrible Lightfall campaign, I've actually been really enjoying this year in Destiny almost as much, if not more than the Witch Queen year (besides the campaign). Strand has been some of the most fun I've ever had in Destiny, the seasonal content and exotics were cool and interesting, the exotic missions were really neat and challenging, and you guys have been implementing so many great quality of life changes to the game which we've been wanting for a long time now. We were also finally at a point where the strength of our builds felt like it matched the increased difficulty you guys added to the game, and we were promised more exotic tuning and Stasis buffs as well. Overall, things seemed like they were looking up, at least for the new season. ... then you guys decided to nerf all builds across the board, cutting down on all survivability to nerf a few outlying builds, removing all ability focused builds from the meta entirely, and then effectively removing bonk hammer from the game just because it was fun and somewhat strong/popular. And to top it all off, you didn't even really buff Stasis in any meaningful way. I went from really excited about the new season, to wondering if I'll even have the motivation to play at all. Seriously, almost none of my builds will survive the nerfpocalypse without being massively weaker and not worth running anymore. I just can't fathom why anyone would think those changes were a good idea, especially with player numbers already at all-time lows. If anyone from Bungie is reading this, and doesn't want to keep driving Destiny into an early grave, please convince whoever is behind this balance patch to reconsider it.[/quote] solo operative is coming back, and they included noble deeds weapons.i bet we will hardly notice banner of war change,it can't be worse than last seasons reduction to suspend. Seems most of the changes will go unnoticed mostly imo

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                • I fully agree with you on the Stasis part.. they advertised like Stasis is gonna finally be good and made it seem like they were really focusing on it.. then the TWID 🤣 LITERALLY put 2 Stasis mods at the end section of the artifact and just took away stat negatives for some fragments and added to others. Completely underwhelming and pointless. They literally created solar 3.0 all over again this season.. which strictly in my opinion is the worst subclass. I'm not touching any of those mods. Where you're wrong and the majority of the community is wrong is the direction they are going with the game. The ability nerfs were coming sooner or later for everything and everyone. They have stated for a long time now that they wanted the game to be more about gunplay and that they were going to take it in that direction. This TWID is quite literally them ripping that bandage off... And it's probably not over. Yes they did it at a time where Bungie is at an all time low but I'm sure they are thinking... "Might as well.. they hate us already". I truly believe we need to see all these changes out in the wild next Tuesday to see how everything plays. If you think about it.. I too am sick of all the crazy ability warlocks and Titans do in any content. It's overused and makes playing on a fire team somewhat frustrating at times. Any way... People just need to calm down. This was going to happen they made the move to do it now. I don't blame them.

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                  • Too many walls of text 😭

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                    • Are they using an extra large sparrow?

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                    • I can have a blast making fun of anything in a videogame and LF is that way too, but I did actually like it. It's not like it was... nevermind, not even going to defend that right now. The last two seasons were definitely up there among the best also. They're calling it a nerfpocalypse. That's not good but good thing they got the bad news out of the way first. Now I think people can attain matching amounts of happy with good news..

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