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7/26/2023 5:10:48 PM
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Oppressive Trials Matchmaking

I have already posted about this issue, that is most likely not unique to me. Here is a further breakdown to my trials experience last weekend compared to 2 friends on my list, also solo queuing. The results in matchmaking are interesting. The number percentage are what Destinytracker listed for win percentage. Guardian 1 Guardian 2. Guardian 3 1. 17% 1. 69%. 1. 94% 2. 64% 2. 24%. 2. 99% 3. 27%. 3. 63%. 3. 98% 4. 38%. 4. 82%. 4. 50% 5. 73%. 5. 72%. 5. 78% 6. 39%. 6. 97%. 6. 69% 7. 67%. 7. 84%. 7. 82% 8. 80%. 8. 91%. 8. 25% 9. 22%. 9. 13%. 9. 16% 10. 20%. 10. 100%. 10. 95% 11. 98%. 11. 89%. 11. 9% 12. 2 %. 12. 69%. 12. 84% 13. 31%. 13. 52%. 13. 78% 14. 80%. 14. 88%. 14. 82% 15. 16%. 15. 95%. 15. 71% 16. 21%. 16. 72%. 16. 95% 17. 16%. 17. 85%. 17. 74% 18. 49%. 18. 73%. 18. 62% 19. 10%. 19. 90%. 19. 75% 20. 23%. 20. 81%. 20. 85% 21. 29%. 21. 60%. 21. 84% 22. 9%. 22. 73%. 22. 94% 23. 27%. 23. 45%. 23. 93% 24. 64%. 24. 85%. 24. 73% 25. 33%. 25. 11%. 25. 72% 26. 13%. 26. 92% 27. 32% 28. 67% 29. 66% For reference, all guardians are of similar skill (k/d, elo, Combat rating, etc.) and all guardian solo queued. Please Bungie. I will compensate you for your time and efforts if you will just please look at the issue. I will donate to a charity of your choosing. This is not an attempt at vanity. I love this game, but it seems that the love is not reciprocated. I am genuinely curious what, if anything, I am doing to be subject to such oppressive matchmaking when my peers/friends are experiencing such favorable matchmaking. Is there something I can do on my end? This is clearly not fair and I’m just looking for anything. You could easily tell me that this is exactly what Bungie intended. Or that this is just how matchmaking is and to get used to it. I’m just looking for anything to explain this. Please and thank you in advance
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  • This game and it's players would be so much better off if destiny tracker and the report websites didn't exist. Just gives people brainworms and excuses.

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    • Glad I don’t see mine anywhere 😜

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    • Great report, Bungie has been exposed! Unfortunately it’s their design and it’s working as intended

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    • Editado por I am kevin: 7/26/2023 6:55:19 PM
      And to future reference if trials would have some kind of sbmm making it 50/50 ballance towards each team, the odds of completing a confidence card would be 0.67%, with a mercy card (dubble mercy) you would have 11% of going flawless and 3.75% with a single mercy. You have to understand that trials is inherently a canabilzing system. I’ll try to explain. It’s a piramide system where you need 7 wins to climb to the top. But like any luck game (blackjack/roulette etc) you can calculate the odds on any given base. But if you add sbmm to the equation you’re -blam!-. Because winning each game with a 50% change of winning for 7 strait wins a row is astronomical low. Like i stated without mercy it’s 0.67% of winning 7 times in a row. So with trials being a piramide system it can’t have sbmm on top of the situation. Now about the canabalize part; for ppl to reach the top you have to have players at the bottom. Now when these players feel they can’t reach there goals they quit. So the lower to mid players will now be the worst in the pool. This cycle will continue untill the hardcore player is left. Hope this explains a lot

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      • The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?

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      • Trials is CBMM with no lobby balancing. Unless you are one of the very best players (capable of beating most teams on your own) you are buying a lottery ticket and hoping the random lobby division works in your favour. It’s why I don’t play Trials — too many matches decided before a single shot is fired.

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        • It would be helpful to see the players kd, elo, and skill rating. Looking at the provided information it looks like the players do not have the same skill.

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          • What is the elo of those players (starting and ending). Elo is the lone parameter that dictates win %.

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            • Honestly play it at your leasure and don’t take it seriously. I just want engrams for armor so I’m only grinding xp. Sometimes the matchmaking is fair, sometimes its not, its a roll of the die. And remember, its always the lucky ones who don’t believe in luck😂

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              • It's all random. It has to be random. If there was a forced SBMM algorithm barely anyone would be going flawless.. The more skill you have the less luck you need visa versa.fffffffffffffffff

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                • [quote] ... compared to 2 friends on my list, also solo queuing.[/quote] You and two friends were all solo queuing for Trials?... Why not become a team like the game mode intends?

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                    The matchmaking is factoring in your skill so if you want better match ups get better.

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                    • Like what most people are saying, its all a random number generator. You are asking a computer to pick a number between 1-100 and expect it to be 50/50 with wins/loses. But after 100 games, you might be at 40/60, play another 100 games and you could be at 55/45, which adds up to 95/105, closer, but still not 50/50. The more you play, the more accurate percentages get. You only sampled 30ish matches between 3 people, whose outcomes do not interfere with eachothers. Just because one is succeeding doesnt mean the others have to fail. All can succeed at the same time, or all could fail, or it could be mixed like your results. Play another 30 games and the numbers could be reversed in your favor. Play another 300 and you'll probably all be closer to the 50/50 mark. End of the day, you can only control how you play. If you played well and still lost, you can't knock yourself for it, only try and try again. If you were bottom of your team and lost, then you know there's room for improvement.

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                      • I’ve noticed that as well and this is good data (thanks for the efforts)! Win% is based on average elo of the team I believe so individual player elo will have an effect to this %. But this why sometimes a 0.5kd can go flawless without much effort where a 1.5 struggles. It’s complete RNG lol.

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                        • [quote]I have already posted about this issue, that is most likely not unique to me. Here is a further breakdown to my trials experience last weekend compared to 2 friends on my list, also solo queuing. The results in matchmaking are interesting. The number percentage are what Destinytracker listed for win percentage. Guardian 1 Guardian 2. Guardian 3 1. 17% 1. 69%. 1. 94% 2. 64% 2. 24%. 2. 99% 3. 27%. 3. 63%. 3. 98% 4. 38%. 4. 82%. 4. 50% 5. 73%. 5. 72%. 5. 78% 6. 39%. 6. 97%. 6. 69% 7. 67%. 7. 84%. 7. 82% 8. 80%. 8. 91%. 8. 25% 9. 22%. 9. 13%. 9. 16% 10. 20%. 10. 100%. 10. 95% 11. 98%. 11. 89%. 11. 9% 12. 2 %. 12. 69%. 12. 84% 13. 31%. 13. 52%. 13. 78% 14. 80%. 14. 88%. 14. 82% 15. 16%. 15. 95%. 15. 71% 16. 21%. 16. 72%. 16. 95% 17. 16%. 17. 85%. 17. 74% 18. 49%. 18. 73%. 18. 62% 19. 10%. 19. 90%. 19. 75% 20. 23%. 20. 81%. 20. 85% 21. 29%. 21. 60%. 21. 84% 22. 9%. 22. 73%. 22. 94% 23. 27%. 23. 45%. 23. 93% 24. 64%. 24. 85%. 24. 73% 25. 33%. 25. 11%. 25. 72% 26. 13%. 26. 92% 27. 32% 28. 67% 29. 66% For reference, all guardians are of similar skill (k/d, elo, Combat rating, etc.) and all guardian solo queued. Please Bungie. I will compensate you for your time and efforts if you will just please look at the issue. I will donate to a charity of your choosing. This is not an attempt at vanity. I love this game, but it seems that the love is not reciprocated. I am genuinely curious what, if anything, I am doing to be subject to such oppressive matchmaking when my peers/friends are experiencing such favorable matchmaking. Is there something I can do on my end? This is clearly not fair and I’m just looking for anything. You could easily tell me that this is exactly what Bungie intended. Or that this is just how matchmaking is and to get used to it. I’m just looking for anything to explain this. Please and thank you in advance[/quote] Best advice I can offer, is to avoid like the plague You’ll be much better off

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                          • Man is fed up lmao Just get better little bro. 👍

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                            • Trials is CONNECTION BASED Trials DOES NOT Lobby Balance It's not rocket science

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                              • its the lowest population it's ever been...

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                                • Looking at this guardian 1 seems to be no where near 2 and 3

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                                  • I would point to personal performance first...

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                                    • This is so hard to get tho… I see the % and I have no reference to what it means. Not only that you say there all similar skill? If that’s the case what makes these % jump then from time to time. Like is this each guardian and there win % per game they played that weekend ?

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