They destroyed all of them lol

Does it really matter though when every lobby is always full of Hunters ?

Yeah, trials is nothing but hunters again... Like always it's been. So fun.

It's still good, you just have to put in more work to make it so now. It's less brainless.

Warlock: Yes, good. Hunter: Good. Titan: Very good. Hunter: Why? Titan: I'm going on vacation. Hunter: Oh? Where to? Hunter: Hello? Where is everyone? Warlock: Hey, wait up, i'm coming too!

So how long until people complain that it's too weak? Because I have since the changes were announced. Nerfs were needed, we all agree. But have we not learned from past changes (like Nova Warp) that nerfs can be overdone? I posit these nerfs are comparable to Nova Warp's and perhaps worse. Why is the community on such a metronome when it comes to changes like these? In one breath, everyone's complaining about Nova Warp losing its viability, and in another celebrating the death of a subclass! Are we hypocritical? I was hoping any changes would at most drop it to mid-tier, now it's not even viable in any activity. Cryoclasm is now too tedious, it's difficult to make work with anything and especially to shatter crystals and frozen targets. There is simply not enough time to freeze someone and shatter them before they break free with the new freeze changes. Shattering an enemy player is now only possible with the Super or by timing it with a fellow teammate. Half of the aspect is next to useless outside of Glacial Quake. I am however satisfied with the changes overall, it addressed the issue with surgical precision, but they went to far in other avenues. Howl of the Storm can be outstrafed will minimal effort, much like the new Coldsnap. Even in testing it's difficult to freeze an enemy. Thereby making the aspect virtually useless. What was everyone's problem with this ability? It shut down apes, even supers that get too close, but it's nowhere near as egregious as many other things. Was it that it worked efficiently in conjunction with Cryoclasm? That's also been nerfed, so why this too? And don't get me started on the new Shiver Strike; slower than standard Titan skating, same damage as a melee, and at worst will displace targets by a few meters, not even at a high enough velocity to cause any Architect damage. It fills a third of the kit, and is now completely useless, better yet, a detriment to the player. It's very slow and very easy to counter. When it comes to Shiver Strike, I think the only issue was the desyncing. I've rarely had difficulty in combating against Shiver Strike, now it's so pathetic you can actually stall in the air by doing a U-Turn. it's like a more complicated Icarus Dash with half the efficacy of Icarus Dash. Believe me. I'm a Titan main and I'm [i]glad[/i] Stasis finally got its just desserts. I'm excited to branch off and use different subclasses (albeit disappointed because Fragment stat boosts are no longer justified with Behemoth as a subclass, therefore I have to rework my own builds). We're in the honeymoon phase right now with these changes, everyone is grateful. But it's only a matter of time until they'll be seen in this way. And it's our fault for accepting it so easily.

Out of curiosity can anyone hit anything with Withering Blade anymore? I’m normally not that bad at aiming...

Yep...can't let Titans be Titans for too long. If Hunters aren't always the best to chose in pvp, then something must be changed. RIP Behemouth.

I don’t like Stasis in crucible, but all Stasis subs are … really bad now. Next nerf will be top tree dawn, then what. Power fantasy of Harry Potter level of nonsense nerf after nerf after nerf. I play all 3 classes so this is not only about titans.

A players' movement ability is paramount in crucible. A subclass that is capable of consistently spamming abilities that completely immobilize players doesn't belong in PvP. There is no other subclass that does this with regular grenades/melee abilities...except for maybe hunter smoke bombs that somewhat affects player movement. But smoke bombs aren't even top tier. Stasis has everything going for it, supers, grenades, melees. Most other subclasses either have really good utility or really good supers. It's never usually both.

I'd like to see Equinox back into the mix again, it had some nice real long range parts and close range for the Shotgun apes.

Lol you sound like one of those complaining scrubs. Just happy something got nerfed because you are terrible overall. The thing is this stasis should’ve been properly play tested and made balance in accordance to the light supers. The nerf to behemoth was over the top compared to the other stasis subclasses.

Good now Destiny shotguns since that the only special people know how to use. Or better yet make the maps larger and stop giving us shorter maps. Honestly would prefer to lose all moon maps due to this

Stasis is still too strong. Give it a month

PvP sure, but for PvE, it was trash, now its flaming trash.