At least hunters and titans dont have to waste their greneade to OHK melee

Your flaming throwing knife is bouncing off my full face helm mate. Whilst I body slam your skinny cloak wearing ass in my full plate armour at 100 miles an hour.

It can be buffed to do more damage, but no melee should one shot if there's not a charge time to it. Shoulder charge doesn't take very long to activate, but the important part is the condition required to activate it. The requirement of running for a short time means you can't be in the middle of a gun fight and just tap the melee button to one shot them. Even in higher competitive play, shoulder charges one shot nature becomes less valuable because of how much more alert your enemies are. In something like quickplay where there's a lot of chaos, shoulder charge can be a nuisance, but in comp...you are likely going to die before you even had the chance to use it. This makes it more of a surprise attack and with a game where radar is so unbelievably strong, it becomes more of a hindrance to have. Useful as a movement ability, but the shotguns put you down so fast. Vs a throwing knife which can be done instantaneously. I think it's harder to hit a headshot than simply running at your target and pushing the melee button, but it's the condition that matters. Hitting a headshot could be something easier done with enough practice because travel time and the arc are something you can easily calculate especially at closer ranges. A target is running straight at you and you didn't know, so long as you are aiming at their head, just quick turn, melee, and they are dead. The ability for throwing knife to one shot was something that actually made gunslinger meta in d1. I don't know why, but the burning throwing knife could kill you with the burn after doing incredibly high damage and bungie actually patched this fairly quickly...for bungie anyway, because they knew of the problems it created. Shoulder charge is anannoyance and getting one shot doesnt sit well with anybody, but throwing knives were just...something you couldn't counter. Something that was considered "hard" was being trivialized and abused by the players who were good at the game. Shoulder charge isn't something that being good would make it better, at least not by much. It's one of those things where the skill ceiling and the power at that level shouldn't match which for whatever reason people seem to think that something harder to use should always be stronger, but the issue of making something hard stronger than something easier, is that once you close that skill gap, you can actually abuse it. Much like after they buffed golden gun to one shot every super in the game in d1 no matter what...the deficits of that super were heavily eclipsed by just how strong it was, making the skill ceiling artificial and what used to be a super used more as a counter super, turned into a literal unstoppable death machine. You hide or you die, that's all there was to it.

No No No. It’s incredibly easy to land headshots with throwing knife. It will make hunters even more viable in crucible then they already are.

Shoulder charge is super buggy and is countered by shotguns. It's extremely overrated

Hunters complain about everything that doesn’t favor their class/abilities.

[quote]Literally makes no sense if you ask me... Pretty sure a knife is sharper and deadlier than a shoulder. Especially if the knife is either on fire or an explosive... Edit: To those of you who say that shoulder charge is a high risk, high reward ability... it’s really not. All it takes is Scum Eyed Mask and that’s it.[/quote] You want a ohk knife from across the map??? Go play COD. Otherwise here's a tissue for those issues. 😂😂

I believe that every class should have a OHK melee/ability. Titans have shoulder charge. Warlocks have handheld supernova. Hunters have................ Either every class has one or none of them have one. I thinks that a fair statement.

[quote]Literally makes no sense if you ask me... Pretty sure a knife is sharper and deadlier than a shoulder. Especially if the knife is either on fire or an explosive...[/quote] U hunters are pathetic. I Op abilities..op supers...lol..really lame my dude

Shoulder charge is to hunt the cowardly shade step Hunter.

Get a knife throw headshot kill Get the knife back with 50% buff for 5 seconds. Allowing for ohk headshot. After the 3 seconds the knife will go away. Drawback: Die if you don't land your knife Reward: Ohk knife for 3 seconds Both titans and warlocks have draw backs such as needing to be close and having the charge up melee/grenade while being open to shots. This is my suggestion for Bungie.

The dnd nerd in me immediately thinks of bludgeoning damage vs piercing damage against armour and sorry man but the space magic fueled shoulder check makes a lot more sense rattling you than a tiny knife piercing some space age armour. Although i then remember a rogues sneak attack and im back to square 1 lol.