Yes, I read all the articles on how the Anthem "VIP" early access weekend was a dumpster fire fueled by Burnt Edge Transits. Search "anthem is" with Google search suggestions for a few laughs.
Ignoring the technical failures (a safe assumption since later articles reported the Anthem VIP early access was an old build missing many important patches), Anthem shows a lot of mechanical and design promise that will force Destiny 2 to adapt or lose out.
Perhaps the biggest innate advantage for Anthem is the complete lack of PvP. With a PvE only game, you don't have to deal with balancing items against PvE and PvP a the same time, or maintaining some sort of balance split. You can balance the game around crazy paradigms that would be ridiculous and broken in PvP, because there is none.
Other factors that suggest Anthem is gearing up to eat Destiny 2's lunch: A transparent Diablo-like stat system where you can minmax and view objective progression, deeper character customization, more gear progression, and much more differences between characters. No matter how much of a Destiny 2 fan you are, there's no denying it would be difficult to make a talent tree with fewer features. You get a choice of 2 class ability variations and 3 jumps (across all specs), then 3 elemental specs each with 3 variations. Even Shadowgun Legends (a mobile game often compared to Destiny) has a deeper talent tree system.
With Anthem as a credible mechanically superior competitor, Destiny 2 will have an identity crisis: Anthem looks like it will have far superior PvE than Destiny 2. However, Destiny 2's PvP is also a joke (stale meta, terrible matchmaking, thorough inability to dodge or put up effective mitigation, excessively simple mechanics, poor design, poor control responsiveness, lag issues) compared to e-sports grade MOBAs. If Destiny 2 continues on its current path, a rational person will look at the situation and ask: "Why should I get Destiny 2 when I can play Anthem for PvE, and Overwatch for competiive FPS?" In short, this leaves Destiny 2 in a bad place as a jack-of-all-trades that comes up short against its peers in PvE and PvP.
Earlier today I read an article regarding the modern trends in big-budget video games which said these days, there are only "A" grade and "D" grade games with little in between. You absolutely have to be on top of your game or fall behind - badly.
What can (and should) Bungie to prevent Destiny 2 from falling behind?
I recommend first and foremost, pulling out of PvP as much as possible. The video game market is already way too saturated with e-sports and MOBAs, and with how far behind mechanically Destiny 2 is on that aspect, it isn't worth throwing tons of resources at PvP to get something that looks like some semblance of an e-sports worthy title.
Over the Forsaken expansion, Bungie has been increasingly falling into the trap of blurring the lines between PvE and PvP - pushing Gambit (the worst game mode), forcing players to PvP as part of new exotic questlines (Ace of Spades, and supposedly the more recent one that spawned many angry posts). This needs to stop ASAP. If you keep pushing Destiny in the PvP direction, Overwatch and Fortnite will eat your lunch anyway and by then you might as well start throwing your resources in a trash bin for all the good it will do.
Throw all the focus on PvE, move as many developers and testers as possible over to PvE. Maintain a skeleton crew to maintain the existing PvP/Gambit (with the occasional balance update especially for new gear with every wave of content). Definitely don't waste time creating new PvP modes, ever. If you lose the upcoming battle to Anthem, it's because you didn't move enough resources to PvE. In fact, you should be moving resources to PvE while you're reading this.
First thing to do, fix the character builds/talent trees into something with extremely deep customization specifically designed to outdo Anthem. Old-school World of Warcraft style talent trees would be a good starting point. Whether you like it or not, you've stepped into a talent tree and character build customization war with EA/Bioware.
Next, itemization. Add more weapon and armor perks, make their effects far more pronounced and have major effects on gameplay. Add more sockets and socketing options on weapons and armor, vastly increase the drop rate. Add a PvE progression system where characters actually get stronger as they gear up rather than some arbitrary power level that only serves as a way to gate content. Finally, there are way too many weak exotic items. For every great exotic item, there seem to be 2 or 3 that are for all practical purposes hardly an improvement over a purple. This needs to stop. Every exotic item should be a defining, even game-changing part of your build, instead of something that throws a lackluster 10% bonus on something you only use 20% of the time, for instance.
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anthem will be trash not even wasting my money
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Editado por Dire Wish: 2/1/2019 1:29:08 PMAnthem already took the mediocrity title
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I haven't played Destiny 2 in months and didn't but the season pass. I did however put 1000's of hours in to Destiny and had some of my greatest gaming experiences doing it. Anthem is 3rd person and that completely puts me off. Destiny on the other hand feels, plays, shoots amazing. Or at least did. I never really minded the PVP especially way back in 2014/2015 when PVP was just some thing to do as a way of trying out weapons and having a bit of fun. It encouraged people to get in and raid and generally grind PVE to get these amazing weapons people were showing off and completely owning with. Bungie will find their groove again and I will be back when they do. But as for Anthem and even the Division I will give these a miss.
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3 Respuestas[quote]Anthem VIP early access was an old build missing many important patches[/quote] Where have we heard that before?
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Good lord is this an essay for the SATs? But no anthem will do nothing, ever review is "ALOT of problems over all a good game" its the division all over again. Anthem needs to grasp swimming in water before you can say D2 needs to do anything.
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13 RespuestasDoes anyone member when division was gonna kill destiny? I member.
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You know that BioWare will think about pvp implementation depending on community feedback? Let us prevent that.
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Anthem will be an amazing game. I have zero doubt about that! But the success of Anthem is not my issue or concern. My concern is preordering, which I will no longer do. I preordered dozens of games only to be disappointed with endless betas which never were fully released products by any standard. Only when version 2 or 3 were released did the beta actually end. Anthem released a Demo and that is by definition not a beta, but was alpha/beta at best. Now they stand on the threashold of another "demo" this weekend. I wish them the best and may play, but will not pony up advanced cash. Understand that Anthem was delayed because it wasn't ready. If you consider last weekend "ready", then I cannot hope to affect your ideology. To put it simply: a game preorder can come with 10 bars of gold and I will not preorder. I may play. The game may become the second coming but without my preorder money. Want me to preorder, regain my trust. Earn it...
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Lol. I'll be enjoying Anthem like many people, but it is not going to put as much pressure on Destiny as you think.
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Destiny is one of the top 10 most played games in the world. People talking about its demise are really doing nothing but attempting to stroke their own ego.
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not even sure the games are competing exactly in the same market let alone the fact Anthem hasn't actually been released yet Far too soon for this sort of post.
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4 RespuestasDestiny is the original and anthem is a clone. Follow the innovators not the intimaters.
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2 RespuestasNo, Anthem will not kill Destiny in any way. I read your entire post, lol it was long whew lol... I agree with your last comment on “itemization” and I agree with that. Destiny is an established game with characters deeply ingrained within players: on that premise alone can you Bank that Destiny is leaps and bounds ahead of Anthem. Anthem still needs to ingrain their ideas and dig deeper roots that customers can relate to and buy in. I’ll give you an example of how an established business who did it first will outlast the competition: Cayde 6. If Bungie puts Cayde 6 into a spin off revival—Au Revoir to your Anthem. That is how powerful and set this character is. If they place an awesome plot...a steel spine and structure plus a new Subclass to bringing Cayde 6 back, Destiny will mop the floor with any Destiny wannabe’s out there. Oh my effing porcelain god—sales $$$ will go out of Calcutta and make a left turn on China. I don’t know why it took a left turn on China but it did. Big bucks my good sir/mam, Big bucks! This game is not perfect, don’t get me wrong on that notion, but Destiny climbed the mountain top first and took a dump there, while Anthem is still at feet of the mountain looking up and doing the peepee dance. I’m guilty of not playing Destiny as much because it has been unfriendly to my hunter, I’ve tried to get Shards of What’s it’s name and Destiny just said no to me multiple times. A faithful customer can only go hard and grind so much until yup: I realized the effort that I’ve spent did not match the reward. Sometimes I wonder why I’m not getting rewarded, I’ve been a loyal customer since before Destiny launched. Oh well, that’s how their marketing strategy is, and they think it’s right, so I can only wait for any improvements on that subject. I hope I get my Hunter Forsaken Exotics this week. I’m gonna hop on this week and give it a couple of go-at-it. Nice post. Fun read Op. Have a nice day 👍🙂
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So much salt, so much hatred for something you have probably poured so many hours into. Don't you think you guys would be happier just focusing on the positive in life and just sit there watching anthem videos? I don't know man people hang around the forums full of venemous hatred for a game that yes has been disappointing severely so, but has provided some experiences you'll unlikely ever have again with such a fresh view. Be grateful and move on, you'll be happier whether or not destiny fails. That's not real happiness.
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At this point I don't know if destiny can be saved and returned to its former glory or if they are just trying to flog a dead horse. Feel like the latter to me, I personally like to try and collect everything in the game but with destiny 2 it's all locked behind rng, it's a non starter everytime I switch the game on. Activision pulled away for a reason and the community managers are blinded by there own love for PVP that the chances of getting new PVE content are shacky at best. Raids are not what they used to be. The fun I had in destiny carrying people through a raid will never return. Maybe I just don't have the drive anymore or bungie are constantly trying to remove the ability to carry people idk.
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anthem will fail and go free to play... now the division 2 is looking good... and if they both compete it will make both games better for it... so its a win,win,win.
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2 RespuestasAnthem is literally paid Warframe.
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5 RespuestasI anticipate anthem becoming a ghost town after 60 days.
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3 RespuestasThose 20 dollar skins sure look tasty lol. Ill wait no preorder for me fuxk that.
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With Anthem and the Division 2 coming, I think Bungie, now independent, would do well with a bit of competition. However, acting like Anthem is this end all be all after everything that's happened the past 5 years is -blam!-ing stupid. How easily the people who say that Destiny 2 is horrendous forget that both Destiny 1 and the Division had terrible launches. If they expect Anthem, under EA of all publishers, to be the best game ever they might just be brain dead.
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2 RespuestasSounds like you should be playing anthem and leave D2 behind you.... Why don't you do just that and not use a D2 forum to promote another game...? It's about as useless as the "i'm leaving" posts, nobody cares... we are all Adults capable of making up our own mind.
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Destiny already faded into mediocrity years ago and has been stuck there ever since.
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4 RespuestasDestiny 2 in the next month will see some drop off but that is only because some good new games are coming out that people will be interested in (Anthem, Metro Exodus, Division 2) but I disagree with the statement that Anthem is a game that is so good, all of the Destiny community is going to up and leave for it. Me and 3 of my friends cancelled our preorders for it after playing during the VIP weekend. It is only an alright game, and to say it is the Destiny killer is a bit false . It's Mass Effect Andromeda with Iron Man suits. Once the allure of flying around like Iron man wears off your left with MAE, not the best game in the world either.
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EA have something to do with it, it’s going to fail
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But..... but.... it has an EA logo on it.
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post too long.so i skip to read it. but yes. I see anthem good graphic like D2 and maybe have a button for not show affinity number on mob. and i already have EA stuff on my sim series harddisk meow