Yes, I read all the articles on how the Anthem "VIP" early access weekend was a dumpster fire fueled by Burnt Edge Transits. Search "anthem is" with Google search suggestions for a few laughs.
Ignoring the technical failures (a safe assumption since later articles reported the Anthem VIP early access was an old build missing many important patches), Anthem shows a lot of mechanical and design promise that will force Destiny 2 to adapt or lose out.
Perhaps the biggest innate advantage for Anthem is the complete lack of PvP. With a PvE only game, you don't have to deal with balancing items against PvE and PvP a the same time, or maintaining some sort of balance split. You can balance the game around crazy paradigms that would be ridiculous and broken in PvP, because there is none.
Other factors that suggest Anthem is gearing up to eat Destiny 2's lunch: A transparent Diablo-like stat system where you can minmax and view objective progression, deeper character customization, more gear progression, and much more differences between characters. No matter how much of a Destiny 2 fan you are, there's no denying it would be difficult to make a talent tree with fewer features. You get a choice of 2 class ability variations and 3 jumps (across all specs), then 3 elemental specs each with 3 variations. Even Shadowgun Legends (a mobile game often compared to Destiny) has a deeper talent tree system.
With Anthem as a credible mechanically superior competitor, Destiny 2 will have an identity crisis: Anthem looks like it will have far superior PvE than Destiny 2. However, Destiny 2's PvP is also a joke (stale meta, terrible matchmaking, thorough inability to dodge or put up effective mitigation, excessively simple mechanics, poor design, poor control responsiveness, lag issues) compared to e-sports grade MOBAs. If Destiny 2 continues on its current path, a rational person will look at the situation and ask: "Why should I get Destiny 2 when I can play Anthem for PvE, and Overwatch for competiive FPS?" In short, this leaves Destiny 2 in a bad place as a jack-of-all-trades that comes up short against its peers in PvE and PvP.
Earlier today I read an article regarding the modern trends in big-budget video games which said these days, there are only "A" grade and "D" grade games with little in between. You absolutely have to be on top of your game or fall behind - badly.
What can (and should) Bungie to prevent Destiny 2 from falling behind?
I recommend first and foremost, pulling out of PvP as much as possible. The video game market is already way too saturated with e-sports and MOBAs, and with how far behind mechanically Destiny 2 is on that aspect, it isn't worth throwing tons of resources at PvP to get something that looks like some semblance of an e-sports worthy title.
Over the Forsaken expansion, Bungie has been increasingly falling into the trap of blurring the lines between PvE and PvP - pushing Gambit (the worst game mode), forcing players to PvP as part of new exotic questlines (Ace of Spades, and supposedly the more recent one that spawned many angry posts). This needs to stop ASAP. If you keep pushing Destiny in the PvP direction, Overwatch and Fortnite will eat your lunch anyway and by then you might as well start throwing your resources in a trash bin for all the good it will do.
Throw all the focus on PvE, move as many developers and testers as possible over to PvE. Maintain a skeleton crew to maintain the existing PvP/Gambit (with the occasional balance update especially for new gear with every wave of content). Definitely don't waste time creating new PvP modes, ever. If you lose the upcoming battle to Anthem, it's because you didn't move enough resources to PvE. In fact, you should be moving resources to PvE while you're reading this.
First thing to do, fix the character builds/talent trees into something with extremely deep customization specifically designed to outdo Anthem. Old-school World of Warcraft style talent trees would be a good starting point. Whether you like it or not, you've stepped into a talent tree and character build customization war with EA/Bioware.
Next, itemization. Add more weapon and armor perks, make their effects far more pronounced and have major effects on gameplay. Add more sockets and socketing options on weapons and armor, vastly increase the drop rate. Add a PvE progression system where characters actually get stronger as they gear up rather than some arbitrary power level that only serves as a way to gate content. Finally, there are way too many weak exotic items. For every great exotic item, there seem to be 2 or 3 that are for all practical purposes hardly an improvement over a purple. This needs to stop. Every exotic item should be a defining, even game-changing part of your build, instead of something that throws a lackluster 10% bonus on something you only use 20% of the time, for instance.
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2 RespuestasI personally dont like third player view ...how-ever i will purchase it after they get the bugs worked out ..
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6 RespuestasI don't think they are a like at all, I disagree with this post. They will co-exist just fine. Destiny PVP and the raids are what carry Destiny. Destiny does not need crucible to be an eSport to have a successful PvP experience. Anthem will not press Bungie into doing anything, they are alike in Sci-Fi space, robotic imagery only..
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Destiny will be fine. This is the same history with all the other games that were coming out to destroy it. And still here we are with yet another game. Early reviews aren’t so kind beyond the technical glitches. Some reviews even called it a poor Destiny 2. Ouch.
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53 RespuestasEditado por iDEVAST4T0R: 2/1/2019 6:42:52 AMHard pass on Anthem. Tess Eververse doesnt have $20 skins. Plus I expect alot of mediocrity with that game. Yes just my opinion and I have not played 1 second of it or the demo. Demos or Betas can be left for the streamers, I want a finished product. I'll stick with my Destiny.
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28 RespuestasAnthem is a lot of fun but dear god is it’s gunplay inferior to destinys. End of the day it’ll be a game I’ll play between dlcs for destiny and probably vice versa later down the line.
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I'm going to give Anthem a try, if for nothing else, just to take a bit of a break from Destiny. If the Anthem demo {and I'm not talking about the connection issues) is any indication Destiny, with any faults it may have, is a much more polished game.
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after 5 yrs Destiny 2 is not going to change ... cross your fingers for Destiny 3
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Editado por man_of_war_r2: 2/1/2019 4:01:53 PMi very happy about anthem i hope it gives bungie the competition that they need and now they split from Actavision they have the chance and all of these games are really warframe rip offs
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14 RespuestasEditado por DoubleTapp420: 2/1/2019 3:42:40 PMDid you have nothing to do today? I couldn’t possibly get through all that. Having said that, anthem or division 2 will in no way eat destinys lunch. Third person is a major turn off for most and they are vastly different games. Destiny has the best gun play mechanics of any shooter out there. I have played anthem and it fun but not good enough to become my main game. It’s just not happening bud. Edit: skeleton crew on pvp. Your nuts.
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Anthem is going to present its own cancer day 1. I'm fading from destiny but it has nothing to worry about from anthem.
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1 RespuestaEditado por Movarias67: 2/1/2019 3:20:05 PMI totally agree. I have played Destiny from day 1, Sep 2014. I have it on all three platforms (of course no D1 on PC), and 9 characters, and have over 3,200 hours of play time so it's not like I don't LOVE this game... but Anthem does have major appeal for me. I thought the same with the crappy start and couldn't play it until Saturday, but I played over 8 hours and all 4 Javelins that weekend, and I have to say I am impressed. It has some very big differences (flying, attacks, etc.), but it has the feel that I got when I played D1 and I like it. I will buy every version of Destiny until it dies, without a doubt, but once Anthem releases I will be absent from the Tower, an extended amount of time. May jump back and forth depending on the burn out factor, but Anthem will appeal to a lot of Destiny players IMHO. Bungie will need to step up the game. The tell-tell sign will be how Anthem keeps the community engaged such as "bounties", public events, "raids", etc. I know you can collect materials in Anthem, but I didn't look into how to use them, if you even could. I was way too interested in tricking out my Javelin to see which one I like the best of the 4 and I now have them in order of preference. This weekend free-play I will be digging into other aspects if the game allows it. As much as I LOVE Destiny, I, in good conscience, cannot dismiss Anthem.
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17 RespuestasAnthem doesnt look like the casual haven you guys make it out to be. Im expecting the grind to just be as hardcore as Destiny.
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It’s been mediocre since day one
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Anthem ain’t gonna do shit
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[quote]Yes, I read all the articles on how the Anthem "VIP" early access.....bla, bla, bla.....[/quote] So, you know how to read articles and quote things from them.....cool, props for being well informed.....but at the end of the day, all you're really doing is telling people which game they should like to play more. I really hope Anthem is worth all the hype it's getting, but EA.....[i]shivers[/i].....
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3 RespuestasAnthem is going to be fine but stop getting this idea in your head (and others' heads) that the games are similar in ANY WAY. they are sci-fi looters. That's about it. Destiny will always appeal to people that want gun play to be the dominant form of play whereas Anthem (right now) is about ability spam, min/max loadouts and engagements in 3-Dimensions. they are so vastly different games that I don't know why this is the comparison that keeps being made
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You're suggesting that Destiny should follow Anthem foot step? A game that is not even launch yet? How is that a good idea?
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3 RespuestasEditado por Ethereal: 2/1/2019 2:12:33 PMEvery game that people say will kill destiny flops. This game isn’t perfect far from but it’s dedicated fan base will play.
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Bungie has already faded in to mediocrity.
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59 RespuestasEveryone acting like Anthem is the first game in existence to have beta/demo technical issues. Bunch of idiots. The game is amazing, and it's only going to get better.
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Ok. Destiny 2 faded into mediocrity upon its release.
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4 RespuestasDon't listen to all those YouTubers who find more joy in bad games because the drama makes them money than a good game. The Anthem demo was seriously fun when I got to play it. Destiny 3 needs to be an EVOLUTION. Not more of the same.
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10 RespuestasOk 2 things: 1: destiny is already defined as a franchise 2: anthem, just like every other “destiny killer,” will not even affect the game in any way. [spoiler]the mods are gay[/spoiler]
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I do think it's awfully coincidental that another big gun publisher put out a GaaS and Activision walked away just a couple of months before release. I would have to guess their best and brightest believe that this game isn't going to be profitable in the future. You don't just let money walk off in business if you have the rights to it.
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9 RespuestasLets hope anthem and destiny are both great. Would be great for gaming. Bungie needs to git gud right now. I hope they do it.
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anthem will be trash not even wasting my money