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6/24/2018 10:49:56 AM
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It isn't bungies fault you play control wrong
I'm seeing a trend from people in these threads for why people decide to play control like idiots. Bungie forces you isn't a valid excuse. It isn't rocket surgery. Control 2 points and don't flip the spawns or you wrecking ball the whole map if your squad is good enough. This excuse that bungie has this mode pointed wrong or they force me into this playlist is nonsense. Just say it's how you want to play. Bungie doesn't make you a liability to your team. You do.
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I like control, some people don’t. If control is on the weekly rotation or it’s the IB game type what choice do they have.
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People aren't always playing in a fireteam though. In Iron Banner, one of the Daily challenges is often "Capture 15 Zones". People are generally focused on getting the challenges finished before strategy. In regular control, there are always the dumb players that will go after the 3rd control point, flipping the spawn and basically ruining the match. People see the extra points and want to see it on their screen.
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4 RespuestasIt isn’t rocket science is the saying you plonker.
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The best games are when both teams realize this and get to fighting over that second point, allowing the other points to rotate naturally based on team ability to hold shit down. The worst games are when people don't defend what the have in trying to get the enemy point on the other side of the map. On some maps B is a bitch to hold, others its the best place to fight. I like picking a lane between two points and trying to hold them. 9 times out of 10, if I just run and gun, I suck bad enough that I send myself hate mail.
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In IRON BANNER, selfish needs outweigh winning. Players will play for the daily bonus, or make questionable decisions if trying to unlock some ornament. So I go into every banner game not really concerned about winning IF im running solo, cause i expect it to be total bullshit In Regular crucible, i can only chock it up to stupidity. Simple as that. If youre doing things counter productive to the team winning i just think god, what a jack ass, and keep it rolling. You will always have the idiot who didnt get the memo even when they see 3 of their team mates holding 2 zones they have to be the hero and flip the spawn thinking that 3rd is needed. The bozo who doesnt realize we are up in the score and keeps running into the enemy camp feeding them points. on and on it goes so its best to just assume its going to be a shit show if you fly in solo to pvp games lol. get a squad when you want to play for real
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Well I mean it is Clash with optional zones for score multipliers so I mean there’s that. Though I completely understand your point re capturing the 3rd Zone. I wish people wouldn’t flip the zones when you have control of the game. People get way too impatient
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[quote]I'm seeing a trend from people in these threads for why people decide to play control like idiots[/quote] Control has always been played like this; depends on the player. In D1, Control was a sniper's paradise. They would just camp and pick off the players that actually played the objective.
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Do people ever think that other people might have different goals than they have. I managed to reach level 30 in last IB. Since then I had no incentive to go any higher because ships have no meaning to me. But... I did have couple of crucible catalysts to do. Needless to say some of you felt the need to message me for just shooting stuff.
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Finally a person with a brain. Everybody just sees the letter go blue and assumes that they won the game.
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1 RespuestaIf your team has 0 or 1 zone controlled: focus on capturing a zone If your team has 2 or 3 zones controlled: focus on killing enemies and defending the zones you have Just capturing isn't enough. You have to DEFEND too! Don't capture a zone and run away immediately so it gets captured by the enemy again in 2 seconds.
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[i][b]"It isn't rocket surgery"[/b][/i] I mean tell that to all those guys who spam me with rockets.
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6 RespuestasEditado por ferial56: 6/25/2018 12:59:47 AMWhy does everyone see every game as clash huh?!? Control: Go for kills and not for zones Countdown: Go for kills and don’t go for revives Supremacy: Go for kills but don’t go for crests
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1 RespuestaEditado por TheHero: 6/25/2018 11:31:44 AMMIGHTY IS RIGHT and heres the simple to learn tactic to have in Your BRAINS to win most everytime ALLWAYS 2, NEVER 3 = Win Meaning that you take ctrl of only 2 Points (ideal are the ones closest together or when map centered around a center ctrlpoint, then u take the center and one another) and let the 3rd allways under ctrl of enemy Team. This gives you the biggest advantage you will ever have. [b][spoiler]ADVANTAGE: You know where enemy is and where he spawns!!!!!!!![/spoiler][/b] Making the CTRL game a piece of cake. But hey the brainless guys who only seek to make kills without ever have a thought how to play this mechanic.... You are only wasting the time of other players who have the will to make a Team win. You brainless guys dont want Team to win, you want only to have a KD Ratio. SAD! So much Rookies ingame. BUT rest assuered, Bungie made this game and theres a lot of bad things in Crucible. Just research this Forum for my Posts. And you will find some more good answers.
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2 RespuestasI actually want skill based matchmaking back. Maybe I could get teammates that know how to work together and capture zones then.
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3 RespuestasEditado por Blind-N-1I: 6/25/2018 12:23:47 AMShaxx said it best in D1. “Remember Guardians! Two zones are enough!!” And I really, really wish that there was a super quick way to send a message to your fireteam. Pre-made message something like - “Zones Goddammit!!!”
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Agree totally when i capture zones i win 75% of my matches cause i play solo .
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Or do what I do. Avoid crucible at all costs (if possible.) I will play it, but only if the rocket scientists at Bungie make it part of a quest that I would like to do.
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6 RespuestasEven in Halo too many players were obsessed with K/D and wouldn't play the objectives.
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12 RespuestasIf all you want to do is kill (which is myself included), cap a zone and PROTECT IT. Kill anything that comes near it. Win win for all. You get to play clash ( like I do) while PROTECTING A ZONE, and several of your other team mates hopefully have been doing the same with a 2nd zone. Cap 2 zones and hunker down and play clash as long as you have 2 capped.
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Control is literally Destiny’s best game mode. Objective based gamemodes discourage that camping bs that you all like to do.
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So Bungie has a Zone Capture challenge. And the challenge is called "Objectively Awesome" so Bungie has clearly indicated what THEY consider the objective to be - Losing and re-gaining zones. Those players who get and hold two zones are clearly not Playing the Objective as Bungie sees it. Best way too do that challenge: Capture zone. leave it to make sure you lose it, Capture another. Go back get one of the other ones you just lost. Repeat until challenge is complete. It's not even a zero sum game because if the two teams coordinate everyone can get the challenge done quickly. The people who are the liability to the team in this situation are those who are stopping the zones being quickly lost and denying the team the ability to re-capture them. You play for reward presumably. Winning is just one way to that. Don't be that guy doggedly holding zones while your teammates are trying their best to lose and re-capture them.
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Those last two sentences make absolutely no sense.
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1 Respuesta[quote]It isn't rocket surgery.[/quote] Didn't know rocket surgery was a thing...
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We should be able to choose what we want to play and besides, losing in quickplay and iron banner doesn't isn't that big of a deal anyway.
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4 RespuestasIt is bungies fault for making iron banner control....again. It gets boring when every month....it is control. Some mayhem would be nice in iron banner.
