I'm a helmet on my Titan away from 385 on all characters, but I'm not the norm from what I see out in the public areas. I'm lucky to find a 370, most people are still in the 340's or 350's. This makes running the EP past level 2 or 3 as a random public event pretty much impossible. If you wanted it to be a high-end exclusive event, why did you bother putting it out in the patrol area, just to rub it in the faces of the people who will never get to do it? I really thought the EP was meant to be the next Archon's forge/Court of Oryx. Maybe not always, but frequently you could run it for an hour or two straight just showing up solo. This is just an ugly mess of people loading up zones with stacked teams. I know the streamers had a hand in turning the EP sour, you basically admitted it in the last TWAB update. But that upper end tweak isn't going to be enough to change things around, it really should peak out around 370. Why make it higher than the new raid lair? Exclusivity, that's the only reason. My opinion, you're going to exclude people out of content to the point that your sales don't support your business expenses. Who wants to buy a game knowing they can only play part of it? The casuals who are playing right now are going to leave DLC 2 with a bad taste in their mouth. I don't see them buying in to the fall expansion. Honestly, if Anthem is more towards the old D1 RPG direction than you guys are (and they're describing it as an RPG so that's very possible), I won't be buying either. I think you guys are making some very bad choices at a very critical point in your company's existence. Wow, that turned into much more than I intended. Anyways, EP is 3 guns and a suit of armor. Why the hell is it so important to lock people out of it? Edit: It may be a bit too late for this, but I wasn't complaining about the grind. My gripe is that they put a max LL event in the middle of patrol. That to me suggests they intended on these to be completed by random people just joining in like a public event/archon's forge. And as of right now, it just doesn't look like that's going to happen for at least another month or more with the general LL progression of the community as a whole. Sure I will join groups to do EP, I'm signed up for one on the100 right now. But is that what Bungie really wanted with the event being in a public space? If so, why is it even there?