Now please read before jumping in and shouting " they can't win!" People want more grind and less grind blah blah..... Grinding materials = BORING AS FCK. Now finish reading........ The black spindle - hard challenge and wicked fun to unlock. The new verse shite needs more fun. Each one of these verses equals a dead mans sky loot grind. I like a challenge, love a good strike / prestige strike ect ect. Running in circles for literally hours = boring. I did three prestige nightfalls earlier and didn't get ONE of the materials needed for the quest line #6 or verse 6. Make them fun challenges. Bump , like, hate or leave a comment!